Cross training

[Nid]

You bring up a good point. I should just change my username to "Correct".

[Ronin]

either that or "penguin boy"

[Nid]

:D

[virtual_mantis]

Originally posted by ronin69
Correct,
I once had a friend, marathon runner, try some heavy bag routines, for about a month 2 times a week.
After that month he STILL could not last more than 4 rounds ( full out 3 min. rounds).
While my other buddy who did NO running ( hates it with a passion) did 3 per week and was doing 6 rounds with ease.

I can see how the marathoner had trouble. He trains for a long slow expenditure of his energy. He is on the extreme end of the running scale.

Marathoners typically put in 30 to 40 miles of running in every week. More if their at an elite level. This is an extreme example.

A person who lets say run 10ks, who regularly does speed work and hill work probably would have done far better than the guy who hates runing with a passion.

[The_Ghost]

I have to agree with Mantis, marathon runners aren't good sprinters, but they have good speed. Two different things.

Someone who runs often, but does it in a sprinting manner (i.e. Uphill, short courses, etc.) will do much better than the guy who doesn't run at all and kicks the bag one more time a week than the marathoner who only kicks the bag 2 times a week.

[AFS]

I think running can add in different ways to your MA training. If your basic endurance is good, you recover quicker in between fights. Secondly you can do change your running to intervall training, hill runs etc to simulate some of the cardiovascular demands of sparring. Thirdly running can help you during injury recovery. However, a lot of Martial Artists I have met are overachievers and as such , have the tendency to overtrain.
But it alll has it's place

[Nid]

I think running can add in different ways to your MA training. If your basic endurance is good, you recover quicker in between fights.

Stop thinking that. That's not what endurance is.

Secondly you can do change your running to intervall training, hill runs etc to simulate some of the cardiovascular demands of sparring.

False. The only thing it simulates is what you superfically percieve to be relavant (which it isnt)...sweatiness, windedness, hard breathing i.e. "the cardiovascular system". The cardiovascular system doesn't power the specific functions of an activity...they simply support that which does. The skeletal muscles. The changes you make occur primarily there. Hence, you use them in a way MOST similar to what which you're trying to train for...both in body mechanics and intensity. Running neccesarily fails on the first part.

Thirdly running can help you during injury recovery.

This is a dangerous lie for those retarded enough to even pay attention to you at this point. Less talk for a while. You don't know what exercise is nor does.

[Nid]

I have to agree with Mantis, marathon runners aren't good sprinters, but they have good speed. Two different things.

So competitive marathon runners will achieve a better time in a marathon than a competitive sprinter? Is that what you call speed? "Good" speed? This has what to do with what now?

Someone who runs often, but does it in a sprinting manner (i.e. Uphill, short courses, etc.) will do much better than the guy who doesn't run at all and kicks the bag one more time a week than the marathoner who only kicks the bag 2 times a week.

Better at what?

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