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  1. chainpunch is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kovacs View Post
    You don't exactly but you do insinuate that your knowledge is better than everyone elses. I do agree with your critique of the chun, I think it's spot on in fact but if everyone here is missing the good stuff, where is it?


    I dont know, missing, dead maybe lost forever?

    Gentleman,

    Its very easy to see a Wing Chun man on a Wing Chun bashing thread seeming to attack the bashers as "some chunner defending WC".

    I doubt anyone can point to a post where I talk well of WC or defend it really. As I have said before I can agree with most comments about WC and never have defended any WC seen in the net. WC should die, its beyond repair because who is going to repair it the ones that screwed it up or the ones that dont know it but want to improve it. Both ideas are absurd. Ok, so lets all say forget WC I wish it would die out anyways.

    What I have done in fewer than five threads is take aim at what I think are ridicules comments. Some people may be teasing for the fun of it, White Shark has seen some decent WC, now that I know where he is coming from I can just laugh along with him when he says something that has a lot of truth in it anyways. Southpaw's analogy of thease the retard is accurate. To me people are teasing the retard so much they are doing it for the sake of teasing (ok, fine) but unjustified comments maybe because all the logical ones have been used already. Itís really ok with me really, I enjoy the comical nature of bullshido so when I reply I donít want people to think I am defending WC I am just picking on some dipshit ideas. I think there is a knee jerk reaction "oh hey, there's a chunner talking back to us. We got to let him know he is stupid even if we canít quote the stupidity exactly".

    I am not trying to use WC to defend it nor do I try to use what other people who know me think of my character as proof I am all knowing. Its not about the "chun" its about who I am, you need to know my character its never about my abilities. Anyone has a chance to beat another person we donít just tend to listen to people because of their abilities rationale and character are more important. So when T says I am saying some pussyplayground **** you guys need to know I will be critical but I mean no harm. I think the guys that met me know that.

    Alex, all the best to you and getting punched in the face. I am proud of you as far as a stranger loosely associated by internet can be. My comments about you suck and donít train hard enough was not directed at everyone so donít take it personal. BTW I dont have a mom, me and my dad share yours so yeah she is a **** whore.
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    Chainpunch, what are the judo throws if not takedowns? :-)

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    I think I see where you're coming from chainpunch. I'm not trying to bust your balls for being a defender of the chun, I just couldn't see what your reasoning was for it.

    Some of the critisism it gets can be unfair and is little more that a knee jerk as you said but the style and it's practitioners, almost universally, ask for it. As someone pointed out, people don't choose to be retarded but they do choose the chun.
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    Argh. Takedown is not a Judo term. Nage Waza, throwing. Not takedown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BKR View Post
    Argh. Takedown is not a Judo term. Nage Waza, throwing. Not takedown.

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    It's my primitive understanding of the term. If one does something that gets the other person on the floor, it's a takedown in my book. Am I wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BKR View Post
    Argh. Takedown is not a Judo term. Nage Waza, throwing. Not takedown.

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    That is semantics. By your logic a Judo guy could never score points in a grappling tournament because he didn't use a takedown he used a Nage Waza. Which is obviously insane. Semantic arguments aside everyone that takes a person down to the mat is using a takedown.

    You may as well argue that Japanese can't be translated so the only real Judo is Judo performed by a native speaker of Japanese.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonuzaba View Post
    It's my primitive understanding of the term. If one does something that gets the other person on the floor, it's a takedown in my book. Am I wrong?
    While words throw and takedown are used interchangeably they donít necessarily mean the same. I like to think of it this way-a takedown ends with both uke and tori on the ground while a throw doesnít necessarily have to. Throws goal may be to slam/spike the uke, while takedowns goal is to gain dominant position on the ground.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chainpunch View Post

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    No triangles, didn't read
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    No dihedral wings either; he must not have the real chun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maofas View Post
    No dihedral wings either; he must not have the real chun.
    I took YEARS to get that point.
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