11/11/2009 11:11am, #1
Martial arts in high school/other equal educational institutions
I am just wondering:
What are your experiences with martial arts training in school (essentially pre-college, or university)?
- Can full-contact sports/progessive MAs like BJJ, MT, etc. be trained in a school environment?
I would rather think that the usual 5th-grader's reaction to BJJ is the same Cartman and the rest of the Southpark crew display when confronted with *real* wrestling... ("OMG, how gay!")
This is a serious question, because I am going to be a teacher and currently on a forced hiatus from MAs. The next style I pic for me will probably be the last one I can train seriously, and I am contemplating what could be the best one to, in a far future, become a coach in a school environment.
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11/11/2009 12:19pm, #2
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- Dec 2004
Rafael, I am a Physical Education teacher in Ireland, and as one of the extra-curricular activities in the school, I run a no-gi club for senior students. The kids who take part love it, my only problem is getting any competition for them, as its not like high school wrestling in America, we have no background in it.
Having said that, re the second part of your post, our secondary schools (equivelant to your high schools) would not have full time coaches in our sports (well a very small minority of private schools might have it for there most competitive teams), so I cant answer to that.
Bjj (sub grappling etc) is a viable option with regards to extra-curricular activities
11/11/2009 12:26pm, #3
- Join Date
- May 2003
What I've seen here in the Philippines is that schools often accredit clubs from which varsity teams are then formed. These are most common with MAs that have established competition leagues, such as Boxing, Judo, Karate, Arnis & TKD.
11/11/2009 12:59pm, #4Let your anger be like a monkey trapped inside a pinata; waiting inside, hoping that the children don't break through with the stick.
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11/11/2009 1:05pm, #5
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- Oct 2008
Well, my gf's PE teacher was a 5th dan Kyokushin blackbelt. They did karate a couple of times in PE. They also wrestled around. I've heard of similar occurrences if the teacher is somewhat competent in stuff like that (western kickboxing is quite popular here, for example).
Or are you talking about extracurricular activities? I know we have MA clubs in universities here in Norway, but not in "regular" school.
11/11/2009 1:08pm, #6
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11/11/2009 3:29pm, #7
My niece just started highschool at some fancy performing arts school, and she told me that one of her classes is mixed martial arts. She just got a black belt in some god-awful karate, by the way. I'll be sure to ask how the class is going and what kind of stuff they practice.
11/11/2009 3:39pm, #8
Thank you very much, everyone!
Could you please detail your experiences? - I have virtually no experience with grappling, but BJJ would be the one sport that I would really be thrilled to learn.
- How do you regulate grappling, especially with girls? I must confess I'd be somewhat afraid that the students would make up something about me touching them in an indecent way. You know, rolling down on the floor some unknown children seems a bit risky, considering all the **** that pupils tend to talk.
Once there is a missus in my life I take more seriously, let alone job and (almost faints) some babee Rafes, things might well change.
- And that'd better happen soon! Kimbo marrying has made my inner clock freak out!
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11/11/2009 6:32pm, #9
Wrestling (or fencing if you go to one of them fancy schools). At least that's all I've seen on a wide scale in the US of A. If anything, you can learn the double leg takedown well enough. Didn't schools once have boxing?
11/11/2009 6:49pm, #10
- Join Date
- Dec 2004
They have to be senior cycle students, meaning they are all 16 or above.
I drew up an "Ettiquete of Grappling", basically a list or rules, and each student had to sign it. I also had their parents sign a waiver form, considering it is a contact sport.
After that I run it just like a normal bjj class is run. The kids roll with each other, and I'll also roll with most if not all of them at each session (they love the oppertunity to try and tap me out).
When pitching the idea to my principal, i put it forward as a sport rather than a martial art, and actually likened it to high school wrestling in order to give him some concept of what i was doing
As an aside, I now also give classes to some of the teachers in the school on a seperate evening