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  1. Phrost is offline
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    You absolutely do not want to develop a flinch or fearful anticipation of the recoil, so .22 is king for learning fundamentals; think of it as light contact sparring.

    But if you're interested in learning how to be proficient with your firearm outside of work, then you're ahead of a lot of police officers already. Not bagging on the profession as a whole, but there's definitely a need for more emphasis on marksmanship in certain areas (LA, New York, etc).
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    There are MANY things that cops need more training on.

    Many PD's only do a yearly qualification which is woefully inadequate, but its more than almost ALL PD's do when it comes to driving training. And guess which outstrips almost all other causes of officer and civilian deaths? Few cops will ever shoot anybody, but almost ALL cops will get in a car accident of some sort on the job. But car wrecks are not as frightening, dramatic or as "macho" of a threat.

    The bottom line on the whole shebang is money. There just isnt enough to train cops (and pay them for it too) to the level that they should be. Just as in the military, you have some "warriors" who live and breathe all the aspects of their profession, and will get the training themselves, and then there are the "just here for the college money" types who will only take what is given to them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tgace View Post
    Few cops will ever shoot anybody, but almost ALL cops will get in a car accident of some sort on the job. But car wrecks are not as frightening, dramatic or as "macho" of a threat.
    Worth pointing out that this applies to everyone who drives, not just cops. Long before you train against the ever present ninja threat most of you should be doing up your seatbelt and taking an advanced driving course for real 'self defence'.
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    I hate glocks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tgace View Post
    Good advice. But if he happens to get a job in LE chances are he is going to be assigned a weapon, like it/comfortable with it, or not. Thats why I purchased a G27 as my off-duty gun. Same make, same caliber, same operation parameters as my duty gun. I would really have preferred a sub-compact 1911, but decided to keep it simple.
    I love Glocks. I have a couple of LEOs in my family that take the opposite approach, though. One of them is allowed to carry a 1911 if it fits certain specs, the other has to carry a G22, both of them carry whats comfortable off duty. It's a great idea to have a weapons system that's simple, but sometimes it's just as important to make sure you have what you're comfortable with whenever you have the option. There's nothing wrong with training more than one weapon type. Hell, I'm a big fan of Glocks, SIGs, and 1911s. I'm comfortable with all 3 of them, particularly 1911s, but if I were to join the force I'd have no problem adapting to Glocks.

    By the way, nice choice on the 27. I've been wanting to pick one up myself, but I'm too darn broke for anything other than bills nowadays...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wounded Ronin View Post
    I hate glocks.
    How can you hate the sexiest, most functional poly-piece in the world?

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    I hate glocks.
    Ditto.
    Quote Originally Posted by zaohu View Post
    How can you hate the sexiest, most functional poly-piece in the world?
    Off the top of my head...I hate the grip angle, the trigger, the recoil characteristics, the lack of an external safety (because cocked and unlocked is no way to live), and the magazine spring strength.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wounded Ronin View Post
    I hate glocks.

    Not my first choice either.
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