11/09/2009 3:36pm, #151
Frankly I don't consider being a threat to GSP or Silva a reasonable standard to hold fighters in those weight classes at this point.
11/09/2009 3:43pm, #152
11/09/2009 3:45pm, #153
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Shields also only moved to 185 because there isn't sufficient competition at 170 outside of the UFC.
Undisputed KING OF ASSHOLES.
11/09/2009 4:10pm, #154
My recollection was that they were thinking Diaz for 160, Shields for 170 and Cung Le for 185. Then Le decided he didn't want to fight legitimate opponents. I also recall that Shields basically stated that his going up had to do with no opponents at 170 (hence the Lawler fight). His vacating the belt may have been for the reason you stated.
Then again, your information is usually better.
As for MW weights, Hendo might be smaller but weighs in close to 205 when fighting at LHW (204 for his bout with Rampage). Basically the talk about Silva massively outsizing his opponents is, imo, nonsense. At LHW Silva is undersized.
11/09/2009 4:13pm, #155
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I realize the onus was on Miller to shake Shields off, but to me that bout looked like the jiujutsu equivalent of lay and pray from Shields. A healthy share of positional dominance with no real attempt to finish and no significant strikes of any kind. Though that could be more of a testament to Mayhem's skill than anything else.
I was also a little ruffled that he was saved by the bell with that choke, but there's nothing to be done about it.
Fedor fight was entertaining but dude has always struck me as having the personality of drying paint.
Does anyone else have to fight the urge to hang themselves every time Mauro Ranallo opens his mouth?
11/09/2009 4:40pm, #156
GSP vs Shields. Eh, nah. Miller gave GSP a run for his money a while back and GSP is lightyears better than he was then.
[QUOTE=gonzomalan;2257123]not really, he took some legit shots. he apparently has the focus of a serial killer to be able to analyze his opponents (or listen to his corner in between rounds).
Exactly, but there is a strategy at play too. He switches to wild haymakers when he can't secure anything on the ground. Then the other fighter starts "winning" and then out of no where Fedor puts them out with the perfect comedic timing. He did the same thing to Arlovski.
Propers to Phrost for calling it. This really is feeling like Haymaker month.
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11/09/2009 5:18pm, #157
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I don't think Shields was trying to just lay and pray, Miller's just a (metaphorically) slippery guy to sub out. I think Shields was getting frustrated, which led him to make the mistake of almost getting caught. It looked to me that he almost had the twister locked in, but Miller was slipping out, so he gave it up. I'd have to watch the fight again, though.
Rogers was reasonably frustrated at his loss. He came out in all the interviews saying he wasn't gonna get scared by the myth of Fedor, but ended up doing just that. Right as the second round started, he had his hands way down and I kept thinking "Hands up, hands up, he's gonna fucking counter-- Ah there it goes." Still pretty impressed with Rogers' ground game though, but I'm not sure how much was skill and how much was just muscle.
Also, Mousasi's judo is good, but Sokoudjou's judo is fucking OLYMPIC. He needs to switch camps to tighten up his bottom game, though.
11/09/2009 6:02pm, #158
11/09/2009 6:22pm, #159
To be fair, if Miller really had that choke Shields had enough time to go to sleep several times over.
11/09/2009 7:31pm, #160
Its not wild, they're not haymakers, how could he be so accurate with them if they were wild? That pic^of him hitting Nog, its more like a throw but you throw your fist at their face.
This is where it is really hard to teach boxers to do front throws, and alternately where I've had trouble throwing a controlled cross/hook: knowing when to put everything behind it or to step into your lead and recover.
Rodgers is just the latest to get tagged with this "sloppy technique"Many things we do naturally become difficult only when we try to make them intellectual subjects. It is possible to know so much about a subject that you become totally ignorant.
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