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    Casting Punch vid with shot with the Fight Nerd

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    OMG Thank you Steve. Now when people post dumb crap like "Fedor is sloppy!" we can link this thread.
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    LOL...I feel your pain man...
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    I swear fedor doesn't even do it the way that guy's doing it.. I've never seen him turn his wrist over like that it just takes all the power out
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    Quote Originally Posted by MMAMickey View Post
    I swear fedor doesn't even do it the way that guy's doing it.. I've never seen him turn his wrist over like that it just takes all the power out
    Do take a look at these.

    Fedor's hand position during the last punch.


    Look at the position of his elbow while he punches Gary. It's the same as in the video above, and it's nearly impossible to put your elbow in that position while not turning your hand over.


    Nearly every punch lands with the thumb pointing down.


    Let's not forget, in throwing that punch Fedor often ends up hitting the opponent when the fist is horizontal, but the follow-through is all the way to vertical.
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    Nice post G-off.

    I should say that that punch can have the hand hit in different positions. But, thumb down is the most common and fluid IMO.
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    One of my old students who I encouraged to join Serge's club told me about Fedor punching precisely like this in his instructional book. I'm pretty sure he walked around with a boner for a week after reading it.

    Nice thread & vid. I was left wondering after the other Fight Geek clip's padwork, so this is really great.
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    So I guess there's a method to the madness.

    I'm a little confused as the advantages the casting punch gives as opposed to jabs/crosses. It also seems like you're impacting with the back of the hand? Or is that just the angle I'm seeing?
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    yeah, just the angle you're seeing

    Think of when you close the hood of your truck, you have to roll your shoulders up to get enough force to close it easily. Its like the posture you assume when you throw a discus, you need to get your lats involved or it ends up being just an arm punch.

    Without the over-rotation, you won't get the back muscles to fire with the punch.

    As far as advantages go, its not a silver bullet but it is another angle to attack from.

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    so can anyone else apart from fedor make that punch so powerful with the thumb down? I've always used a kind of overhand right of that description but if I put the thumb down it just feels unnatural
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