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  1. Hiro Protagonist is offline
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    Fedor using SYTEMA?!

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    Has anyone done a write up on Systema and its influence on Fedor's fighting style? It seems to give Fedor the same type of advantage Karate gives machida. I know he is not fighting two guys at once or disarming a guy with a knife, but this is russias version of Krav Maga. All their special forces train it and it links Fedor on the wikipedia page.

    From what I have been told, most fighting styles require you to work out of a base stance. Think about Karate or Kick Boxing, everything is taught for a basic stance. The same can be said for BJJ, where you you are taught starting in the guard. The one thing about systema is you are taught to wait and go with what your opponent gives you, being ready to fight out of any position with out resetting yourself to a fundamental stance. Its all about being fluid, inventive and unorthodox. I think this mentality and approach helps Fedor just as much as his sambo background.
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    Fedorís transitions and striking are very reminiscent of Systema. And thereís a good reason for it too- there was a point in time during the development of combat sambo when the techniques of sambo as well as striking were formed, and there was a significant spillover of Systema techniques.

    Igor Vovchanchyn and Oleg Taktarov have also been observed as fighters that incorporate systema- style techniques into their fighting, specifically Igorís punching form. The way that Igor (and later, fighters like Fedor) punch is very similar to systema- which is ultimately based on free, uninhibited, relaxed/ circular motions. Which is why it looks like theyíre almost swinging something like a ball and chain when they throw their punches, and why Fedor hits so hard but has such great hand speed. Itís all about staying loose and having optimal transfer of motion and reaction time.

    Whether or not Fedor has trained Systema specifically isnít known (at least from what I can tell), but he certainly has some tendencies that are extremely Systema- esque. And it is possible that heís done a little, as Systema is the Russian Armyís official combat system, and Fedor was in the military for quite some time.
    http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2009/10/1...n-fight-system

    Now, now... Systema, isn't that... I mean, I see certain parallels between...

    YouTube - Systema Spetsnaz - Oleg Spector - Knife Defense


    ...And...

    YouTube - Kinji-Te, the Forbidden Fist of the Ninja
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    Bloodyelbow.com is officially a joke.
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    ****, fucking double-post. Rum is one hell of a drink.
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    I hear Fedor is secretly a bear on a unicycle.
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    Yeah, in Fedor's MMA book he talks all about systema....oh wait, no he doesn't!!
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    First, anyone using a punch is described as using "Wing Chun Principles" and now this.

    ...Yeah! Systema is , like, Russian so Fedor must be using it, 'cause he's, like, all Russian and stuff...look, you can see when Fedor hits people, well, Systema hits people too...really

    How can they take so much win and end up with so much fail?
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    Huh? Double post?
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    Quote Originally Posted by diesel_tke View Post
    Yeah, in Fedor's MMA book he talks all about systema....oh wait, no he doesn't!!
    My point exactly. No reference whatsoever there, and I am, frankly, glad.
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