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    I hate this video, nothing i ever do will be as awesome as that kick.
    Don't be such a negative Nancy. Obviously you're meant to learn the kick and use it in a MT match and then have videos of you circulated around on the net.
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    YouTube - REVERSE E FOUETTE

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    That guys reverse spin of ak ick bears very little resemblance to the way the other guy did his kick imo Matt. The force on this guy's kick is the spin, similar yet more efficient movement wise than a TKD spinning kick. The other guy did not even have to spin to generate power, thats why I say it is a hooking heel kick and.... the angle it encroached on victim was totally different. With most spinning back and spinning hooks you can literally bat the guys leg away. Try doing that with a hooking heel delivered from the flank.

    But yes having said that I t is obvious that stripey was a Savateur... they get to take cred for that one. LIke I am fond of saying though... lets have a special week where we forget about styles and just say things like "this is how to do a choke that is flawless." "This is a proper way to kick to the head" etc. mWe should call it style amnesty week!

    I run into this a lot because doing Ju Jutsu I use a lot of chokes but people say "but in Japanese Ju Jutsu are there aa lot of chokes and neck breaks"? To which I want to say "gee I don't know!"
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    It's a Reverse Fouette or to be exactly the first movement of the reverse Fouette. In which you get your leg high before the turning starts.

    You won't see this kick in this form in competition because it would be an illegal kick.
    Savate has the "rule" that a roundhouse or a reverse roundhouse kick must come under an angle of 90° (give or take 20°). Now the judges won't be measuring the degrees of your kicks with professional angle measurment equipment. But if your kick comes up under an angle of 45° or sharper (this can be easely seen with the bare eye), it's an illegal competition kick (roundhouse/reverse roundhouse wise).

    The form seen in the video of the reverse roundhouse is taught in Savate Défense as a finishing move in the combo: right cross, step right, jab left to the face and than rightleg reverse fouette straight under the chin or to the side of the jaw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zendokan View Post
    It's a Reverse Fouette or to be exactly the first movement of the reverse Fouette. In which you get your leg high before the turning starts.

    You won't see this kick in this form in competition because it would be an illegal kick.
    Savate has the "rule" that a roundhouse or a reverse roundhouse kick must come under an angle of 90° (give or take 20°). Now the judges won't be measuring the degrees of your kicks with professional angle measurment equipment. But if your kick comes up under an angle of 45° or sharper (this can be easely seen with the bare eye), it's an illegal competition kick (roundhouse/reverse roundhouse wise).

    The form seen in the video of the reverse roundhouse is taught in Savate Défense as a finishing move in the combo: right cross, step right, jab left to the face and than rightleg reverse fouette straight under the chin or to the side of the jaw.
    Wow!

    That is very interesting. The take on competition is also very psychologically revealing. One regret of mine is that I have seen so many good martial artists but all the savate players I have seen have been very medoicre at best.

    Thanks for that info
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zendokan View Post
    It's a Reverse Fouette or to be exactly the first movement of the reverse Fouette. In which you get your leg high before the turning starts.
    Thanks for clearing that up. I was starting to thing I was seeing everything backwards (which does happen sometimes).
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    It's still two completely different kicks! The power generation isn't remotely the same.

    They're about as much the same kick as push kick and the krotty front kick (both of which I refer to as front kick, but the trajectories and intent are completely different).
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    This. Is. Awesome. AWESOME!

    love the the 1st person with his kick
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    Quote Originally Posted by maofas View Post
    It's still two completely different kicks! The power generation isn't remotely the same.

    They're about as much the same kick as push kick and the krotty front kick (both of which I refer to as front kick, but the trajectories and intent are completely different).
    OK, so if its not Reverse Fouette, which kick is it?
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    This. Is. Awesome. AWESOME!

    Feel kind of bad for the guy that got kicked, but the guy that threw it didnt know if he had just lifted the dude's wallet or what, so you cant blame him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by War Wheel View Post
    OK, so if its not Reverse Fouette, which kick is it?
    Like I said in the other thread, I learned it as "swing kick", but who knows what it's really called, because the other kicks those guys did had names like "California Roundhouse".

    The name isn't all-important, I mean, I call 3 different kicks front kick. The point is that the mechanics/power generation/muscle groups are different. Spinning hook kick is propelled by the spin (+snap of the leg into the target at the end). This kick is propelled off the floor by a lever-action.

    I can barely do a spinning hook kick (the reverse fouette in that Savate video) without falling on my ass, but I can do this kick.
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