kosherkickboxer competition footage

**Matt Phillips** · Posted On: 5/10/2012 7:28am

Originally Posted by The Question

Kin's boxing looks really good in that clip. If he's outboxing Kin now then he must really be going great guns with that ****. Awesome.
I'm fucking melting with envy. Good ****.

That experience with the limitation of his kickboxing hands in a Boxing format sent KK on a mission. He went down the street and trained in a dedicated boxing gym for a year before he sparred Kin again. Kin took second in Golden Gloves last year, and the gym is looking to get Ben in this year when he turns 17. He wants to earn his blue before he switches focus off of grappling though.

**bobyclumsyninja** · Posted On: 5/10/2012 9:07am

Originally Posted by Matt Phillips

Kin is the hardest working person in the sport I know; I've seen him show up to coach teens at NAGA the day after competing in Golden Gloves, put on his gear, and jump right into no gi Intermediate on a whim and win gold. He fights as much as possible in every combat sport he's trained for, and does very well in Ammy MMA. If he's about to go pro then I am getting very old, because his plan was to wait until he graduated from College, and it seems like yesterday that he was still in high school :)

We are both very old. I don't know if it'll be his very next thing, but it's coming up soon.
I'm so pumped for Kin's fights/matches. Him being a competitor level combat sportsman in multiple disciplines is awesome to an EPIC degree. He takes fights/matches like I try music styles....but then he actually gets to punch/kick/strangle the people he's working with.

Hey Q-dot, I made you a TD HL. You can relive roundkicking trupwers in the junk as much as you like.

**Matt Phillips** · Posted On: 5/10/2012 10:42pm

Originally Posted by bobyclumsyninja

We are both very old. I don't know if it'll be his very next thing, but it's coming up soon.
I'm so pumped for Kin's fights/matches. Him being a competitor level combat sportsman in multiple disciplines is awesome to an EPIC degree. He takes fights/matches like I try music styles....but then he actually gets to punch/kick/strangle the people he's working with.

Hey Q-dot, I made you a TD HL. You can relive roundkicking trupwers in the junk as much as you like.

At 1:35 I'm thinking "Who's that child in the ring with Question. Holy ****, it's Kin!"

Fucking LOL!

**Matt Phillips** · Posted On: 5/11/2012 7:03am

Edit: 0:35, I mean

**The Question** · Posted On: 5/11/2012 11:02pm

Originally Posted by bobyclumsyninja

We are both very old. I don't know if it'll be his very next thing, but it's coming up soon.
I'm so pumped for Kin's fights/matches. Him being a competitor level combat sportsman in multiple disciplines is awesome to an EPIC degree. He takes fights/matches like I try music styles....but then he actually gets to punch/kick/strangle the people he's working with.

Hey Q-dot, I made you a TD HL. You can relive roundkicking trupwers in the junk as much as you like.

Yup, I secretly follow Kin's fight career on facebook and in the Mass MMA press. (ssshhhhhh!).

And you have no idea, how many times I have seen that highlight vid, bobby. No idea. lol. That was my eye of the Tiger motivation clip for like 2 years. Still is, actually.

**bobyclumsyninja** · Posted On: 5/15/2012 6:29pm

Originally Posted by The Question

Yup, I secretly follow Kin's fight career on facebook and in the Mass MMA press. (ssshhhhhh!).

Me too. I can't afford to watch him live, but I'm so excited. He trains really really really hard and it shows. I thought you were really good yourself, when I got to watch you spar, or spar you. Good control w/ nice combos, and a great defense. I mean the kickboxing stuff. Your ratio of TD's attended to faces kicked is probably unparalleled in TD lore.

And you have no idea, how many times I have seen that highlight vid, bobby. No idea. lol. That was my eye of the Tiger motivation clip for like 2 years. Still is, actually.

If that's the case, I'll make you another, even more awesome one - if I can find the clips I'd rendered. You provided so much material.

Will you visit the bean again, at some point?

**Matt Phillips** · Posted On: 5/19/2012 12:34am

OK, I finally got the footage of the NAPAGA Pankration match from a couple months ago. As you can see, Ben is still having trouble sticking his head in to guillotines in MMA-type formats. He tapped to that and took a 10 point penalty. His opponent ended up taking the match by 2 points.

Pankration rules, so no headshots or GnP.

**Matt Phillips** · Posted On: 5/19/2012 8:14am

Ben just got word that he's fighting his first Muaythai rules match in 5 weeks. If I make it to the gym this morning I'll try to get some video of his sparring so people interested in his training can track his progress.

Oh, I forgot to mention that pankration vid doesn't quite make it to the end of the fight (camera ran out of RAM)

**bobyclumsyninja** · Posted On: 5/19/2012 8:27am

Hey that was a sweetness hip toss at 1:47. Looks like once he did that, he spent the rest of the time going for another. I'm sure his coaches will help him address the exposed neck issue. He's doing great.

That was a nasty looking neck crank. He was ok, afterward?

EDIT: Where's the MT match? Local?

**Matt Phillips** · Posted On: 5/19/2012 11:00am

He does tend to chase that ghetto tai otoshi of his :) His neck was fine; he went on to win gold in intermediate no gi IBJJF after this match.

The match is local, but I'm not sure which gym is hosting it yet (prolly Redline). The other kid trains with the kickboxing instructor at Barra Boston, so I'm guessing Ben will have comparable instruction, but bettering sparring partners. From what I hear their MT instructor is pretty good, but he's the only one that good in that gym.

That was a nasty looking neck crank. He was ok, afterward?

You know I just realized that was probably illegal; he threw Ben with the neck-lock. If that's legal for teen pankration I'd be shocked... it's illegal even in adult Judo.