10/18/2009 5:43pm, #71
10/18/2009 5:56pm, #72
And I think rapist are not hard-boiled streetfighters, they are recluse obsessive men feeding on the so called helplessness of women,
10/18/2009 6:20pm, #73
And the rapist has the convenience of figuring out an area and scenerio which is beneficial and this might be the biggest danger. No, we don;t tend to go out to deserted areas with strangers but Uncle Fred is another matter.
I have a confession to make... I have not figured out a way to deal withthis dilmna and it scares me. I mean 9 times out of 10 that relative is ok and I don;t want my kids and women growing up scared, but the succesful rape is that 10nth time make no mistake about it. And for the other type of rapist tht is not as determined any tough act usually will get him running. In New Yorl when I was a kid all the ladies carried dog leashes made of metal. If they were bothered....This thread never was a high quality conversation - My friend vern Gilbert on the William Acquier thread.
The fight in question having started over who owns which piece of rubble. Nicko1;2233174 On the Acquier Kim Fiasco slash thread.
10/18/2009 6:26pm, #74
You're absolutely right with your comment.
Indeed, the rapists may very well be "recluse obsessive men feeding on the so called helplessness of women" - but that this DEFINITELY DOES NOT make them physically weak or liable to stop just because a woman stands up to them. Actually, they're probably going to be quite the opposite, having already initiated the assault, committed to violence in their minds, got the adrenaline and testosterone flowing and entered a completely different headspace to most of the rational world.
Better to assume this than to assume that these guys have boundaries.
10/18/2009 6:32pm, #75
Indeed the statistics say that most rapes are perpetrated by people known to the victim - but I just thought that I should throw this out here too...
10/18/2009 6:54pm, #76
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I think those stats count towards knowing the victim tbh. In other words, it's not some maniac hiding in the bushes who conks them over the head with a brick, but rather someone who gains the victim's trust to some degree and takes advantage of them/doesn't stop when they say no. Family member, guy you meet at a bar, first date with someone you barely know, etc.
Martial arts is good practice, but sparring mimics a duel not an assault. 9/10s of the skills we learn are good solid moves in-and-of themselves but will only come out of the toolbox when squaring off against another trained fighter.
RBSD-type scenarios (in addition, not instead of sparring) are a better way to practice self-defense applications imo, but I don't know how many RBSD schools out there actually teach good technique and train with actual resistance (i.e. really beating the **** out of the guy in the redman suit as opposed to him acting).
I'm all for not giving women a false sense of empowerment, just saying, I don't think the women vs. rapist situation is nearly as bleak as a lot of people imagine.
P.S. I apologize in advance for not citing the statistics. I have exactly enough time to bullshit online for a 5 minute sanity break inbetween chapters. If it's an issue we can track 'em down later I'm sure. I read them linked off Bullshido in the first place.
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10/18/2009 6:59pm, #77
10/18/2009 7:14pm, #78
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I really don't get your point, considering you've just summarized everything I've been saying with that line. I've stated clearly that martial art was to prepare for the worst case scenario, and so, many times already. So please explain what's so wrong with what I say.
10/18/2009 7:19pm, #79
I've only been registered here a couple of months but I've been reading for a couple of years, on-and-off. From what I recall, there seems to be just as much, if not more misleading and generally crappy stuff in the world of RBSD than there is in TMA.
Yaknow, all the fake military veterans and guys who make unverifiable claims to be ex-underground streetfighting champions, or bodyguards to the stars, or gangland enforcers, or 'the hardest doorman in <wherever>', or ex-criminals who learned how to **** people up in jail, etc. I used to see this shite advertised in magazines all the time...
So basically, you learn knife and gun defences that will probably get you killed, as well as how to kick someone in the balls, gouge eyes, pull hair or hit someone with a bottle - from some fat, bald, middle-aged man who frowns a lot.
10/18/2009 7:28pm, #80
An entire debate for another thread. It will get ugly and people never agree. Yes, a ton of RBSD is ****. It is funny, when Mcdojo/bullshido started RBSD was the new SD/MMA training fad.
Everyone keeps waiting for BJJ and MMA to turn Mcdojo. No one really talks about how quick that happened to RBSD.