Chain Punching

[TenTigers]

simultaneous techniques such as angle off, low sidekick/biu-sao, Heel thrust to the chest or midsection/biu-sao, driving knee/kwun-sao to jam. Once you have bridged, then chain punches can go through the door and then you can finish up with whatever you like, go to the blindside,stomp kick the leg, elbows, etc, etc.
Man, people talk about it like it's some mysterious secret technique. It's not rocket science. Crash the gates, and pummel the guy till he's down. I don't know what the big fuss is.

[Ben Grimm]

Chain punching if done prematurely is the same as telegraphing. Your oppponent can see what you are doing. But if you've made a hole in his/her defence, then blasting away with chain punching is one of many options available.

[maofas]

Chain punching if done prematurely is the same as telegraphing. Your oppponent can see what you are doing. But if you've made a hole in his/her defence, then blasting away with chain punching is one of many options available.

So you and others keep repeating, but you're very vague about what you're using to make this hole.

simultaneous techniques such as angle off, low sidekick/biu-sao, Heel thrust to the chest or midsection/biu-sao, driving knee/kwun-sao to jam. Once you have bridged, then chain punches can go through the door and then you can finish up with whatever you like, go to the blindside,stomp kick the leg, elbows, etc, etc.
Man, people talk about it like it's some mysterious secret technique. It's not rocket science. Crash the gates, and pummel the guy till he's down. I don't know what the big fuss is.

It's not rocket science, but when a system doesn't generally teach jab & cross/reverse outsiders scratch their head and wonder what they're using in their place.

Sorry, I just am having a hard time visualizing what you mean. Heel thrust to the chest/midsection sounds like a front kick. When I front kick someone, they fly back, which is the opposite of closing distance. Knees are techniques you use after you've already closed, unless you're flying into him from a distance with it. Same deal with elbows, that's post-closing. I'm wondering how you're getting there in the first place.

Biu sao IIRC is a fingertip strike. Have you actually sparred with it? I ask because a) if not, what are you using in sparring b) pin point strikes are pretty difficult to hit from jab/cross range. It doesn't seem like something the average person could do.

I've had the fortune to spar with quite a few chunners. So far I've seen 2 types: those that borrow jab/cross from outside their system and those left to hopelessly chain punch from way too far away (or use the low stompy front kick, which I think is solid technique TBH, but it's just one technique, and you can only open with the exact same move so many times in a sparring session, even more so when it's a leg technique).

In a self-defense situation you may not have this issue, because often a conflict begins right in your face, but I'm curious what people are using in sparring situations where they have to work for distance.

[TenTigers]

biu-jee is a fingertip strike. Biu-Sao is the entire hand and arm that thrusts forward.
If the kick hits him in the chest, fine. It's not a teep, it's a kick. It's meant to do damage. If he brings his guard down,even a c.h., hesitates, you go in. If he brings his guard up-then yuo are bridged with him. Either way, you are in. Knees can enter from outside with a shuffle or skip.
It's like hitting someone with a chair. You can try to swing it, but it's far better to point all the legs at your opponent and drive with it, or throw it. Then finish him off.
These entries (and these are but a few, I think with a little imagination, you can find many more. The Mook Yan Jong set contains these) try to throw more than one weapon at a time. Not foolproof, by any means, but they do work. Like anything, it's based on how you set it up. If you are not a smart fighter, you can use any tool in the bag of tricks, it's not going to work.

[Tonuzaba]

I could have read all these looooong replies, but instead I wonder about this thing I've heard somewhere around here:

how about a video instead of a lot of talk?

;-)

[It is Fake]

I could have read all these looooong replies, but instead I wonder about this thing I've heard somewhere around here:

how about a video instead of a lot of talk?

;-)

No, you've posted here long enough. Ask the question correctly.

Video must include alive sparring following this criteria:
RATINGS: How Do Aliveness.....does your school look like this? - No BS MMA and Martial Arts

6 and above or, it is worthless.

No, we dot not want a repeat of the last Chun thread with video.

[Tonuzaba]

No, you've posted here long enough. Ask the question correctly.

Video must include alive sparring following this criteria:
RATINGS: How Do Aliveness.....does your school look like this? - No BS MMA and Martial Arts

6 and above or, it is worthless.

No, we dot not want a repeat of the last Chun thread with video.

True.

I wasn't clear enough, I apologize.

[matrixdutch]

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Ten years and you never learned to chain punch correctly? Or how the structure works? Or how to apply it?
No offense, but the problem does not lie in the system.

No, I know the structure, it's the style and methodology of Wing Chun that is flawed.

[DerAuslander]

I could have read all these looooong replies, but instead I wonder about this thing I've heard somewhere around here:

how about a video instead of a lot of talk?

;-)

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...25817267856358

[matrixdutch]

Vunak's way is the best way to apply chain punches