2/18/2004 4:18pm, #1
2/18/2004 4:22pm, #2
2/18/2004 4:31pm, #3
Si elbow y shoulder.
2/18/2004 4:39pm, #4
I hear Kimura is the master of this new martial art.
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2/18/2004 5:18pm, #5Originally posted by ronin69
Correct me if I'm wrong please.Originally Posted by Sifu Rudy Abel
2/18/2004 5:24pm, #6
I can never tell the difference! I just always say Kimuracana! That way no one can say I'm wrong?
2/18/2004 5:30pm, #7
that is a modified americana - looks like to submit he would have to rotate the hand towards the feet.
the kimura would submit by rotating the hand towards the head.
Ronin69 - that's twice this week you posted the wrong picture! :-)
2/18/2004 6:20pm, #8
Unless you're calling it "ude-garame" or whatever the Japanese is, you have to differentiate. I learned that as an "Americana".Normally, I'd say I was grappling, but I was taking down and mounting people, and JFS has kindly informed us that takedowns and being mounted are neither grappling nor anti grappling, so I'm not sure what the **** I was doing. Maybe schroedinger's sparring, where it's neither grappling nor anti-grappling until somoene observes it and collapses the waveform, and then I RNC a cat to death.----fatherdog
2/18/2004 6:23pm, #9
here's my (ignorant) question of the day.
what's the difference between an americana, key lock and paint brush (and I'm talking about the grappling moves you bunch of smart asses!).
I have them all as the same technique.
2/18/2004 6:58pm, #10
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They are the same. Though I've seen key lock refer to a few different things.
Most commonly the americana.
I believe catch wrestlers call a bicep crush a key lock (not sure about this one).
Mike Swain calls tieing up someones arm in their own gi a key lock.
Some call the variation of kimura/americana where the arm is STRAIGHT and you get the elbow in a straight elbow lock a keylock.You want some birth control? You can smoke a cigarette.