Posted On:2/18/2004 4:18pm
Style: Shi Ja Quan
Targets shoulder and elbow.
Last edited by Ronin; 2/18/2004 4:23pm at .
Posted On:2/18/2004 4:22pm
Last edited by Ronin; 2/19/2004 8:00am at .
Posted On:2/18/2004 4:31pm
Style: Chinese Boxing
Si elbow y shoulder.
Posted On:2/18/2004 4:39pm
Style: Be Happy
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Posted On:2/18/2004 5:18pm
Style: Muay Thai & BJJ
Originally posted by ronin69
That looks like an americana. The hand goes up towards the head, versus down by the waist.
Correct me if I'm wrong please.
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Posted On:2/18/2004 5:24pm
I can never tell the difference! I just always say Kimuracana! That way no one can say I'm wrong?
Posted On:2/18/2004 5:30pm
Style: BJJ, MMA
that is a modified americana - looks like to submit he would have to rotate the hand towards the feet.
the kimura would submit by rotating the hand towards the head.
Ronin69 - that's twice this week you posted the wrong picture! :-)
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Posted On:2/18/2004 6:20pm
Style: Brazilian Jiujitsu
Unless you're calling it "ude-garame" or whatever the Japanese is, you have to differentiate. I learned that as an "Americana".
Normally, I'd say I was grappling, but I was taking down and mounting people, and JFS has kindly informed us that takedowns and being mounted are neither grappling nor anti grappling, so I'm not sure what the **** I was doing. Maybe schroedinger's sparring, where it's neither grappling nor anti-grappling until somoene observes it and collapses the waveform, and then I RNC a cat to death.----fatherdog
Posted On:2/18/2004 6:23pm
here's my (ignorant) question of the day.
what's the difference between an americana, key lock and paint brush (and I'm talking about the grappling moves you bunch of smart asses!).
I have them all as the same technique.
Posted On:2/18/2004 6:58pm
They are the same. Though I've seen key lock refer to a few different things.
Most commonly the americana.
I believe catch wrestlers call a bicep crush a key lock (not sure about this one).
Mike Swain calls tieing up someones arm in their own gi a key lock.
Some call the variation of kimura/americana where the arm is STRAIGHT and you get the elbow in a straight elbow lock a keylock.
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