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  1. sempaiman is offline

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    What his major problem is that in the backyard fights he was fighting flabby 300 pound truckers. No he is fighting guys who could fight and he does not have the skill...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cletus View Post
    I dont see it as scared, but mor that he realises he has to fight a series of fights in a relatively short time period, and he is trying to fight safe in order to be in the best shape possible for each of those fights.
    I have to admit, you have me laughing there!
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    Quote Originally Posted by UpaLumpa View Post
    By some accounts Kimbo had little idea what a sprawl was so it really looks like Bas did not do Kimbo any favors in the training department.

    As for how he looked on the ground, he looked not a whole lot worse than AA did when Nelson was on top of him. Also, Kimbo did come very close to a pretty good reversal at one point; Nelson is just a very good grappler and stuffed it.
    I agree with all of this. Maybe that's the issue that Bas and Kimbo parted ways over.

    Is Nelson so good that Kimbo and Arlovski both forgot how to defend themselves? I mean AA has some serious grappling. Maybe Kimbo is better than he looked on the show, but Nelson has an indefensible queso gutame? I mean kesa gatame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tao.jonez View Post
    I mean AA has some serious grappling.
    People say this and I have no idea why.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fighting Cephalopod View Post
    Rampage's submission coach for this season is Hector "SICK DAWG" Ramirez, a man who got outgrappled by James Irvin.

    That should pretty much tell you all you need to know.
    Does the TUF show assign each coach with their assistants or does the coach bring them in themselves?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snake Plissken View Post
    Does the TUF show assign each coach with their assistants or does the coach bring them in themselves?
    They're the coach's pick; that's why Rashad has guys from Jackson's and why Forrest had his main MT and grappling coaches.
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    Thanks.
    That's what I thought but couldn't understand Rampage's reaction to his grappling assistant wanting to keep drilling Kimbo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UpaLumpa View Post
    People say this and I have no idea why.
    I guess that sounds like Arlovski's a submission specialist. Not what I meant.

    Wiki says his record is 15-7. 3 W by submission, 12 by TKO/KO, and no losses by submission. He knows enough about grappling to come out standing in a scramble and stuff a takedown. He can wrestle / stay on top well enough to G&P. And he can defend himself reasonably well on the ground, and generally control where the fight takes place. I consider that serious grappling, but I didn't mean to lump him in with Demian Maia with regards to grappling/submission skills.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tao.jonez View Post
    And he can defend himself reasonably well on the ground, and generally control where the fight takes place.
    You misunderstand, I don't even understand this perception.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tao.jonez View Post
    Wiki says his record is 15-7. 3 W by submission, 12 by TKO/KO, and no losses by submission.
    Which is extremely meaningful when you consider all the great submission fighters he's faced, like
    Undisputed KING OF ASSHOLES.
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