10/03/2009 4:23pm, #141
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10/03/2009 7:00pm, #142
You ever wonder why Don has about 2000 rep points and you have, like some negative ranking?
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10/03/2009 8:03pm, #143
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10/04/2009 5:13pm, #145
10/04/2009 11:06pm, #146
Big Country's on a mission, and I'll be rooting for him all the way.Jaguar's MMA record
pre Kung Fu and BJJ: 0-0-0
post Kung Fu and BJJ: 0-0-0 (BOO YAA!!)
We're number one! All others are number two or lower.
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10/05/2009 1:45am, #147
I wanted to see a submission, too. I think most people would. But we do have to realize that although this is an entertaining sport, it's not "sports entertainment." Down that road lies pro wrestling. If you won't accept that an athlete has the right (maybe the duty?) to choose the winning strategy over the entertaining strategy when there's a conflict between the two, then you're telling them that they're not athletes, they're entertainers with all that entails. There is then no real reason for them not to arrange the winners and maybe the techniques beforehand so as to maximize the entertainment value.
I think people forget that when pro wrestling made the transition to all works, all the time, almost everyone in it was a legitimate wrestler and most knew a lot of submission work. It isn't the skills of the fighters that keep it legitimate, it's the attitude that what they're doing is absolutely an athletic competition before it's a show.
(And again, from Dana White's point of view, I realize that's backwards. He's a promoter and he has to think that way, but the fighters don't.)
10/05/2009 2:45am, #148
10/05/2009 9:47am, #149
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BTW Jason, there is no problem having an opinion but it's the way you put your opinion across on here that ensures you get flamed.
10/05/2009 10:06am, #150
Every single semi-knowledgeable fighter and fan I know is aware Kimbo needs to go get some ground training. It's been common knowledge for a long time. Didn't Bas work ground defense with him? Hasn't anyone? Why hasn't he improved on the ground at all?
Admittedly he was WAY outmatched by Nelson, but it looked like he just layed there once Nelson got him down. Not even the most basic white belt level attempts at defense.
To me that is out of sync with what they show of Kimbo. I am surprised to find that I like him since the show started. I like his work ethic, and he seems bright and funny. But he seems to have a blind spot that nobody else around him has...