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  1. kiddbjj is offline

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    9/26/2009 4:30pm

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    MMA Hierarchy

    Hey guys

    not sure if you might have seen Maslow's Hierarchy before...
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ma...y_of_Needs.svg
    Basically a blue print for building a well balanced human.

    Got me thinking, what would the layers look like for building an 'ideal' MMA competitor. ie. what would the foundation training need to be for someone starting from scratch, and what layers would you build on top of each.

    Personally I think that a solid base in BJJ and conditioning would be the bedrock but I'm happy to hear some opinions.

    cheers
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    Interesting.
    I would go deeper than a skill set.
    I would start with determination.
    I dont think the style makes the fighter at all-the other way around. Take Fedor for example: his base style is sambo. I think regardless of what style he uses, he has that determination that would dominate any fight, regardless.
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     Style: BJJ/Judo/Boxing

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    Exactly, I would start with a tough, intelligent, determined human. Then add MT/wrestling/sub grappling.
    "a martial art that has no rules is nothing but violence" - Kenji Tomiki
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    As I understand it, there are different approaches. Feel free to correct me:

    SBGi expounds a jits-with-hits (BJJ base, add wrestling and boxing and other striking)

    Militech starts with wrestling (helloooooo Iowa) and adds sub-grappling and striking

    The most common I've seen is BJJ + MT + wrestling, usually in that order. Then again, lots of MMA fighters come from a more unique place (Karo's judo base, Cung Le's wrestling/sanda base, etc).
    What a disgrace it is for a man to grow old without ever seeing the beauty and strength of which his body is capable. -Xenophon's Socrates
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     Style: Jiu-jitsu & HEMA

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    SBGi suggests: alive training (timing, energy & motion), training all three ranges (stand-up, clinch & ground), using the I-method (Introduce, isolate, integrate), sticking to solid fundamentals at all times, stuff like that.

    I've also heard Matt (Thornton) say that the key qualities of a fighter are: conditioning, aggression, skill & intelligence, & that they come into play more-or-less in that order of importance.
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     Style: Judo,MT,Boxing,BJJ

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    You also have to consider the personalities and physical capabilities of the fighters. Tall guys like Machida and Anderson work great as outfighters, and can base their game on that. Then you've got guys like Maia who just wanna get in, get the sub, and get out.
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    9/30/2009 2:53am

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    My theory is

    Determination
    Intelligence
    Skills
    Conditioning

    The determination to fight would drive intelligence to study combat skills which would develop physical/mental conditioning.
    If anybody ends up copywriting this, you owe me a case of beer. Good beer. No PBR ****.

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    The thing in this diagram that got me thinking was that esteem - self-esteem, confidence, achievement, respect of others, respect by others - is reqired before self-actualization - morality, creativity, spontinaeity, problem solving, lack of prejudice, acceptance of facts - is possible. Kind of explains most of the people and organizations investigated in MABS.
    Last edited by Nicko1; 9/30/2009 5:49am at . Reason: Incomplete
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    Posted On:
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     Style: Judo

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    what would the foundation training need to be for someone starting from scratch, and what layers would you build on top of each.

    Simple...........


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