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    Fake Navy Seal in Annville, KY

    I am a Army Veteran. I have been in contact with Blacksmithseal who referred me here. Their is an individual name Chris "Gunner" Holmes who has made claims of being a Navy Seal His claims are false. to add further insult to injury, he has recently opened a martial arts school in Annville KY which he calls Tango Down. A Local Martial Arts School instructor in London KY who did promote Holmes to Yellow Belt. School owner alleges that Holmes has bought a black belt certification online. Holmes has also identified himself as a Navy seal to me in person. this is what led me to contact Blacksmithseal.

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    Welcome to the site.

    Hopefully a mod will move this from newbietown for more exposure.

    Link to the school's website please.

    Is this your guy?

    http://www.pownetwork.org/phonies/images/holmes_g_1.jpg
    Last edited by hungryjoe; 12/15/2009 1:21pm at . Reason: added photo link

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    HA!! Well, the only thing I found on google was this thread!! We are going to need a lot more information than this. Maybe what art he trains in? Under what organization. Who his instructors are.
    Combatives training log.

    Gezere: paraphrase from Bas Rutten, Never escalate the level of violence in fight you are losing. :D

    Drum thread

    Pavel Tsatsouline: kettlebell workouts give you “cardio without the dishonour of aerobics”.

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    What organization does Homes claim awarded him rank?

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    Holmes studied Hapkido at Elite Martial Arts in London, KY under Will Schnieder. Schnieder awarded him a yellow belt in Hapkido. According to Schnieder he passed himself off as a navy seal and purchased a black belt certification online from some where. Holmes moved to Annville KY Jackson County, he runs a collection company and has established a martial arts school in Annville KY under the name Tango Down.
    Holmes tried to get a certification from a Mr. Tony Remy who I believe is a retired Navy Chief and I believe associated with American Hapkido Heuk Choo Kwan Association. Remy found out he was a seal fraud and refused to issue him any rank.

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    Holmes is listed with the Kentucky boxing and wrestling authority.
    Holmes,Christopher R.AMMA Contestant000851 04/25/200912/31/2009NoActive
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    If I'm not mistaken, Schneider is associated with World Hapkido Association, but may have acquired some of his HKD techniques from Pelligrini(Combat HKD) seminars.

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    Schiender was associated with the World Hapkido Association but left that organization in 2005

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kentucky Medic View Post
    Schiender was associated with the World Hapkido Association but left that organization in 2005
    That's not what the following website says.

    http://www.elitecombat.info/about.htm

    That site states that Elite MA is a charter School for WHA, and the site is copyrighted 2009.

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    I stand corrected. Schiender left the Combat Hapkido Federation in 2005.

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