10/01/2009 11:05am, #21
10/01/2009 11:08am, #22
10/01/2009 11:09am, #23
Not to nuthug but, has anyone finished Wandy on the ground? I'm not enough of a fanboy to keep track of this stuff...Many things we do naturally become difficult only when we try to make them intellectual subjects. It is possible to know so much about a subject that you become totally ignorant.
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10/01/2009 11:12am, #24
Definitely never been submitted and never been TKO'd due to GnP either IIRC.
10/01/2009 3:33pm, #25
Out of interest, how do people feel Akiyama compares to Yoshida as a fighter?
10/01/2009 8:46pm, #26
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10/02/2009 12:59am, #27
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I think peoples' past respect and admiration for Wand's accomplishments (not that he doesn't deserve it) is making them tip the fight to his favor prematurely. As it's been mentioned in the thread, Wand first has to make weight (and do it well), make weight at a lower weight class, and then he still has his ring age to contend with. Akiyama, by comparison, is in the prime of his career and hungry for competition in the UFC
10/02/2009 5:35am, #28
Some thoughts of my own:
Yoshida had the higher qualifications as a judoka (although Akiyama's throwing has if anything looked more impressive in the cage to date).
Akiyama is a more rounded fighter, with striking skills beyond the judo haymaker.
Yoshida's ability to take punishment was simply incredible, Akiyama's is less of a known quantity. Akiyama's face puffs up pretty easily, but that doesn't necessarily mean he'll go out of the fight at the first flurry of punches.
Yoshida fought tougher fighters - defeating Frye and Hunt, losing to Wandy closely, losing to Crocop and Barnett.
Yoshida packed on a lot of weight after his early judo career and walks around a lot heavier than Akiyama does.
10/02/2009 5:54am, #29
Yoshida is doubtless tough as hell, but all his wins are against cans or people well passed their sell-by dates.
10/02/2009 9:24am, #30
On the other hand, Wandy has lost five of his last six fights, has hardly been dominant since his last war against Yoshida back in 2005, and may not be as prepared to compete at modern levels as we'd like to believe. He's been fighting tougher opposition than Akiyama has, which makes me less than eager to jump to conclusions, but I'm reluctant to bet on a slaughter by Wandy.
Edited to add:
If we are going to go with "Akiyama is better than Yoshida at everything - applies his judo more slickly, strikes better, etc" and consider that Wandy barely scraped through in his last win against Yoshida at a period much closer to his prime, it doesn't seem to me that the logical conclusion is, "Obviously Akiyama's going home in a body bag."
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