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    Okay Mr. Jones whatever.

    You w...................oh wait that is right you still haven't provided any information. A 3 year old thread lacking information you said you would provide.

    Yes, lets keep calling people liars, frauds, and dishonest so we skip over that little Fact.

    No proof=0 credibility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mantis
    THE DON’S LOVING SUPPORTERS ARE ALWAYS EXAGGERATING.
    I don't get where you think Don has any followers around here ... he does house keeping and cleans up spills in the Weapons forum I don't think he is even considered a Mod or staff member here .

    People claim to love his posts and Moderation on other boards I don't know I haven't gone looking . He is no great golly ass kicker either , I know I have met him person and his stand up sucks . He had a solid grasp of the basics of takedowns and a very good understanding of ground work , and he could put it to use better than I despite his growing age and ummm ... extra gravity .
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    Violence is pretty uncommon in clubs in this area, and the dude didn't seem particularly hostile up until the moment he slapped me.
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    By the way, to my knowledge, no one from the Comba-Tai Board has issued a challenge. Typically that has come from this site. Although I am sure you have people that could help you accomplish your research.

    But don't worry; no one takes your challenges serious anymore. To be taken serious, you would have to walk up to me or a Comba-Tai person and try to strike them. Even then, you would probably just be locked up and escorted to jail.

    No Mr. Fake, you are faking it, you guys started this stuff. I just tried to help out a kid who was giving his testimonial. It will probably happen again at sometime in the future, I hope at that time you don't disrespect the kids with the deplorable posts I saw.

    Say what you want to cover up your part and Don’s part in this, but I don't think it is right to treat a well meaning teenager like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by It is Fake??
    Okay Mr. Jones whatever.

    You w...................oh wait that is right you still haven't provided any information. A 3 year old thread lacking information you said you would provide.

    Yes, lets keep calling people liars, frauds, and dishonest so we skip over that little Fact.

    No proof=0 credibility.

    Tell me what proof you want to see and I will try to post it.

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    So, since we have no proof*, from even the most ardent supporters, we can then safely close the case and deem this a fraud?


    *EDIT: of the 6,000 year lineage back through the royal line of Ethiopia and the Knights of St. Anthony, etc...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Locu5
    So, since we have no proof*, from even the most ardent supporters, we can then safely close the case and deem this a fraud?


    *EDIT: of the 6,000 year lineage back through the royal line of Ethiopia and the Knights of St. Anthony, etc...

    This is FUNNY, even for you:XXcompute

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    Mantis, can you refer me to where you or any one else has supplied a lineage tracing your art back 6,000 years?

    According to historical standards if you can't do so you can't establish your arts supposed age.

    Thats why certain organizations like the Roman Catholic Church and the Monarchy of England keep records of who each king, Queen, and pope was, and when they were in power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BackFistMonkey
    I don't get where you think Don has any followers around here ... he does house keeping and cleans up spills in the Weapons forum I don't think he is even considered a Mod or staff member here .

    People claim to love his posts and Moderation on other boards I don't know I haven't gone looking . He is no great golly ass kicker either , I know I have met him person and his stand up sucks . He had a solid grasp of the basics of takedowns and a very good understanding of ground work , and he could put it to use better than I despite his growing age and ummm ... extra gravity .

    Mr. Backfist Monkey,

    I know enough to know that I don't know everything. I will man up and take your criticism as perhaps being fair. But I could post many places where he made horrible mistakes and everyone supported him, even when you discovered that his assumptions were absolutely wrong. Now we know that 90% of his assertions were wrong.

    The only claims that haven't come back wrong are the one's we can not verify, one way or the other. So, everyone hangs on his every fake word. I am just sad I sent him over there to the C-Board; he was embarrassing at how he maliciously attacked their leadership.

    Everyone was saying, "What is his problem!" They clearly stated that their history was based on two legends they were looking for more concrete verifiable evidence to support. What's wrong with that, "They kept saying, WE AREN'T SELLING ANY THING." Accordingly there is a body of evidence that seems to support their Hypothesis about their claims…they have oral, written, artifacts and complex techniques that can not be ignored. In fact some of their stories about Ethiopian and Kushite history have only been recently uncovered, remember these stories have been around for some time. I think it is a big coincidence that they are practicing in some instances the same techniques that are practiced by certain tribes today...how would they know such particulars? Now that doesn’t prove 6,000, but it is interesting. There is Caucasian family that has used an Ethiopian title since the Civil War. In fact the title they use is the highest title that can be bestowed upon a civilian. Well now according to Jones they live in Hattiesburg, but once they lived in Jones County during the Civil War. The Son of this family is a famous person; I will not detail it here. I’ve seen old letters that indicate particulars about Ethiopian Royalty that were not know until 1930’s. Their historical account is apparently based on oral tradition that was actually given. Perhaps the Trojan horse is only a legend that I believe really existed based on verifications of certain things in the written record and the oral history... it does not hurt to look into the claim as fully as possible.

    But to claim the man is lying to drive an agenda is completely without evidence of any kind and also very interesting. In fact everything points to the contrary. But I do understand the passion to see this one claim proven wrong. If his claims are deemed to have merit, when the book is published, it will probably be dangerous for him. I know the concern here is not about the questionable history of a martial art (e.g. Buhidaharma, Wing Chung). Believe me, I understand your concern. It is believed the book will argue for a collaboration of evidence that seems to verify their claims of a 6,000 year lineage..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samuel Browning
    Mantis, can you refer me to where you or any one else has supplied a lineage tracing your art back 6,000 years?

    According to historical standards if you can't do so you can't establish your arts supposed age.

    Thats why certain organizations like the Roman Catholic Church and the Monarchy of England keep records of who each king, Queen, and pope was, and when they were in power.

    Yes sir, you are right.

    It is not my art, but to answer your questions, yes their was a historical lineage supplied as I understand it on the Comba-Tai site from Kushite Dynasty O- Rulers of Nubt)- through the 25th Dynasty, Napata Rule, Meroe rule, Unification of Ezana Christian Kingdom, Decline of Nubia to Ethiopia, Ethiopian Dynasties and Zamana Masafint to Ras Yakub that came to the Free State of Jones. They listed the names of kings of each of these ruler ships right up to Ras Yakub (AKA James Marshal) I don't have the exact time line, but there is one on the site. All this will be illustrated in their book, but there are still questions that will need answering before the argument is complete.

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    Extraordinary claims require Extraordinary Proof , Mantis.


    "Accordingly there is a body of evidence that seems to support their Hypothesis about their claims…they have oral, written, artifacts and complex techniques that can not be ignored."

    Link to this written artifact proof on their board please. As far a techniques go, there are only so many ways to punch, throw, and grapple with someone. Similar techniques is not particularly reliable proof. Oral history is often particularly unreliable, once it becomes more then one person removed from the person who experienced the event.

    "In fact some of their stories about Ethiopian and Kushite history have only been recently uncovered, remember these stories have been around for some time."

    By which scholars? Please provide their full name and university affiliation.

    "I think it is a big coincidence that they are practicing in some instances the same techniques that are practiced by certain tribes today...how would they know such particulars?"

    See my reply above.

    "Now that doesn’t prove 6,000, but it is interesting." Thank you for conceding this point.


    "There is Caucasian family that has used an Ethiopian title since the Civil War. In fact the title they use is the highest title that can be bestowed upon a civilian. Well now according to Jones they live in Hattiesburg, but once they lived in Jones County during the Civil War. The Son of this family is a famous person; I will not detail it here. I’ve seen old letters that indicate particulars about Ethiopian Royalty that were not know until 1930’s."

    Since the original document or even a scan will not be provided for analysis, its specifics concerning Ethiopian Royalty cannot be double checked, and fail historical standards re reliability.

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