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    No probs, is it still considered bare knuckle though when they're wearing wraps?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Odacon View Post
    No probs, is it still considered bare knuckle though when they're wearing wraps?
    Only if you're a Knacker or a Thai.

    Edit: I'll buy you the bottle of your choice if you can put your hands on a copy of "The Fighting Irish - Bare Knuckle Boxing" tape.
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    After watching your first post I'm left with two questions:
    1) why is bareknuckle fighting so cool?
    and 2) why are Kimbo's streetfighting vids so damn entertaining?
    Its like the UFC should have a separate division for brawlers who have absolutely no training.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiamSP View Post
    After watching your first post I'm left with two questions:
    1) why is bareknuckle fighting so cool?
    and 2) why are Kimbo's streetfighting vids so damn entertaining?
    Its like the UFC should have a separate division for brawlers who have absolutely no training.
    Well, I obviously can't speak for all the others, but for me it's not a question if they are "cool".

    Please keep in mind that this specific subforum of Bullshido is for advanced discussions on the topic of WMA.

    Now from both the viewpoint of the historically interested, as well as those trying to keep their MA training realistic and actually usable, those vids are very interesting and helpful.

    Thanks to all the posters btw. :-)

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    Its interesting to see how western boxing has to be adapted for bare knuckle fighting.

    The hands tend to be rested slightly further away from the face.
    (due to the fact there's no gloves to help 'absorb' shots)

    The Knacker (pikey) videos are interesting there's a fair amount of very traditional stances and a lack of head movement.

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    The guy in Odacon's first vid has a nice footwork, I didn't expect a bareknuckle fighter to have it.

    Also, I can't understand a word those knackers? pickeys? are saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lights Out View Post
    The guy in Odacon's first vid has a nice footwork, I didn't expect a bareknuckle fighter to have it.
    A lot of knackers box, some even representing Ireland in the world championships and olympics, so a percentage (maybe a little, maybe a lot) of bareknuckle fighters are actually pro/am boxers. Some do it readily, and some are forced into it via intimidation and violence.

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    Really interesting thread. It takes me back to my teens when I went to some raves in north Kent (UK) which usually had an ad-hoc bare knuckle fight involved somewhere. Really raw, brutal stuff but it's good to see it on digital video.

    I saw the lack of head movement too, I thought there'd be even more to be honest, due to the lack of gloves.

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    Pretty much figured some of the fighters had a background in boxing, altrough I didn't know they also fought professionally.

    I wonder if they could get suspended if caught in these kinda fights, since they're probably illegal.

    Also, the lack of head movement seems to be pretty common in barecknucle fighting, considering that these fights shown are quite "civilized" (no foulin'), I wonder what is the rationale behind it.

    But again, they're irish, an irish boxers are sluggers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lights Out View Post
    Also, the lack of head movement seems to be pretty common in barecknucle fighting, considering that these fights shown are quite "civilized" (no foulin'), I wonder what is the rationale behind it.
    Historically speaking (I can't comment on modern Irish/Whatever) this was due to the fact that engagements/punches were typically initiated at longer range. This offered more time to parry with the arms or use body movement for evasion. The effect was less head movement and more "chin out" head positions.

    FWIW, I see a lot of this stylistically slipping into modern MMA.

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