lloyd irvin mcdojo?

**lmark09** · Posted On: 9/12/2009 6:38pm

thanks for the response im just wondered because one of my friends wanted to take classes at one of his schools and i didnt want him to go to a bad school.and since he knew nothing about martial arts i wanted to hear your opponions

**MaxThunderstone** · Posted On: 9/12/2009 8:20pm

what orginization is he under

He's not. He's at the top of his org, which would be Loyd Irvin Martial Arts Association. For the most part, he's not out there promoting three year black belts. If you can win and keep winning, in international competition, as you go through the ranks, in a kimono, then sure, you can get it in a few years. For mere mortals, it will take much, much longer.

***DerAuslander*** · Posted On: 9/12/2009 9:38pm

Lmao@this entire thread.

**Raging Monkey** · Posted On: 9/14/2009 10:33am

Feel free to swing by the dojo linked in my profile and see for yourself.

**Zapruder** · Posted On: 9/14/2009 11:46am

Originally Posted by Raging Monkey

Feel free to swing by the dojo linked in my profile and see for yourself.

That is to confirm the McDojoness right? I mean the jits is always strong...but...

**Raging Monkey** · Posted On: 9/14/2009 12:22pm

Originally Posted by Zapruder

That is to confirm the McDojoness right? I mean the jits is always strong...but...

Yeah. I wasn't gong-sauing him or anything...

Come by and see if you get a McDojo feel in-person.

Internet marketing and the atmosphere and business practices of the school in person are two totally different things.

**MaxThunderstone** · Posted On: 9/15/2009 1:09am

It really does look like a normal BJJ class, only with more top competitors than usual. No shenanigans at all.

**DSL** · Posted On: 9/15/2009 11:44am

Originally Posted by Raging Monkey

Yeah. I wasn't gong-sauing him or anything...

Come by and see if you get a McDojo feel in-person.

Internet marketing and the atmosphere and business practices of the school in person are two totally different things.

That's actually kind of cool to know, thanks RM. I'd always had the impression due to his marketing, that it was a money factory etc. I mean I don't think anyone doubts his skills etc. But it's good to know that 'in school' it's not like it seems 'in email spam'.

**1point2** · Posted On: 9/15/2009 11:47am

Originally Posted by Raging Monkey

Internet marketing and the atmosphere and business practices of the school in person are two totally different things.

Idiotic McDojo-y internet marketing should still have the spotlight of Bullshido.net blazed upon it, and be shamed.

Producing good competitors and fighters does not entitle a school to put out "3 year BJJ black belt" emails/fliers/planes with signs flying behind them above beaches.

***WhiteShark*** · Posted On: 9/15/2009 11:54am

For the 1000th time McDojo != Bullshido

Omega runs a McDojo. McDojos are about making money with advertising. McDojos can and sometimes do produce badass martial artists.

Bullshido is bullshit claims and techniques. Driving your nose bone into your brain is bullshido. Claiming you are 10th Dan in your own jujutsu system after taking 2 years of Judo and reading about Ninjas is Bullshido.