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  1. Hesperus is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sang View Post
    Where has anyone here said that there is no difference between an illegal action in a fight and a dirty but legal action in a fight?
    Everyone who lumps them together, or makes a simile/analogy/comparison that crosses that divide.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sang View Post
    Other examples of etiquette in a fight:
    * Often a fighter will slip on a logo placed on the ring surface or a wet patch and the other fighter won't pounce of them.
    * Fighters will often give their opponent a chance to tap before breaking the arm.
    * JWP injured his shin on an elbow in an 8 man tournament to the point where one good kick would have taken him out of his next match with Cosmo, Cosmo knew this and didn't choose to target this area.
    * kicking people in the knee is legal yet many fighters will have a gentelmens agreement not to target the knee due to possible career ending injuries.
    * Fighters will sometimes tap gloves to apologize for hitting the other person in the cup.
    These are all optional. I'd adhere, and from what I've read you and the majority of posters here would most likely adhere, but that still means nothing, when you get in/on the ring/cage/mat, you have absolutely no way of knowing whether your opponent will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fug View Post
    Yes, that's true, specially if your opponent is a cheating motherfucking asshole who violates every sense of fair play and sportsmanship. Specially if he's a deceitful, devious underhanded double dealing buttfuck. Yes it's true when you are dealing with backstabbing immoral two-faced scumbags. Yes that's very true Odacon, very true. Thank God these types of asswipes are rare.


    P.S. I do understand, Some are amoral and being so, will never understand. Some can feel shame, others think might makes right and don't have the moral compass that enables most to seek the light, rather than be content to live in an ocean of darkness . So be it. Mussolini isn't my hero.

    Slimy deplorable actions will never be righteous. This brings to my mind social Darwinism, that concept that combined with racialism led to imperialism, national paranoia , eugenics and justified the Nazis. One can justify this action, but it ultimately is evil.
    OK, Hes gave me a neg and said I'm a fucking retard. So Hes, here's a little quiz for you to try that may establish your level of knowledge and intelligence. If you have trouble, feel free to ask questions.

    1. How many branches are there in the federal government?

    2. Name them.

    3. What is the Bill of Rights?

    4. Who is the Governor of your state?

    5. What is the difference between affect and effect?

    6. Define situational ethics.

    7. Having some money is a ___chose one from below_______ condition for having five dollars.

    contributing
    necessary
    sufficient

    8. Is there a difference between ethics and morals?

    OK, OK, those were pretty tough, so I'll give you something a little easier.

    9.What is Snoop Dogg's favourite drink?

    Kokanee
    Pepsi
    Gin & Juice
    Vodka

    10. Complete this Biggie Smalls line from the song "Juicy".

    “I let my tape rock 'til my tape _______”

    Rocked
    Dropped
    Stopped
    Popped

    11. What's the dif tween your and you're?
    "Preparing mentally, the most important thing is, if you aren't doing it for the love of it, then don't do it." - Benny Urquidez
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    Lads take that to pm's please I'd like this discussion to stay on topic.
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    What "discussion"? Thus far we have only two posters who are simply unable to understand a very simple concept, which is that if you have a game of skill and take out the skill part, then the whole thing is pointless. It takes absolutely no skill to take a cheap shot at someone. It's on the level of taking steroids, throwing fights for the mafia, or attempting to drug your opponent so you can beat him.

    You are simply unable to conceptualize the idea that just because something is legal does not mean then it's okay. Your views are simply a demarcation of that line between civilization and the ghetto. The slow, gradual decline of civility and honor and the movement toward a corrupt, morally decayed society where if it's legal it's okay and if it isn't don't get caught.

    Get your fucking ghetto out of my sport.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sang View Post
    Where has anyone here said that there is no difference between an illegal action in a fight and a dirty but legal action in a fight?
    lolol
    Quote Originally Posted by crappler View Post
    It's on the level of taking steroids, throwing fights for the mafia, or attempting to drug your opponent so you can beat him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crappler View Post

    Get your fucking ghetto out of my sport.
    Two things:
    1: "My" Ghetto?
    2: "Your" Sport?

    So the behavior of the fighter in the op is somehow linked to me? And you compete in MMA? No, I didn't think so.

    I've tolerated you drivel up till now crappler, but this proves you are of very low intelligence.
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    I imagine not saying gesundheit or the equivalent after someone sneezes is "on the level of" rape in his mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odacon View Post
    Two things:
    1: "My" Ghetto?
    2: "Your" Sport?

    So the behavior of the fighter in the op is somehow linked to me? And you compete in MMA? No, I didn't think so.

    I've tolerated you drivel up till now crappler, but this proves you are of very low intelligence.
    1. If you don't condemn it then you condone it. No two ways about this garbage. It says a lot about you as a person, and nothing good.

    2. If you take exception to the use of "my" as a reference to my status as a fan, your a dolt and now looking for ad hominems to back up your sorry ass excuse for an argument, of which you really don't have one.

    It's my fault for wasting my words on fools though.
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