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    That is the most brilliant rule change I've heard in the last unit of time.

    It makes striking + clinch relevant for groundwork without requiring groundwork as a substantial component of training. Wow.
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    So, what happens if the guy on the bottom slaps on an triangle and gets the other guy to tap out? If a dude's punching me in the face, I'm gonna choke him if I can...

    Still, not a bad ruleset change I guess. It'd probably be more Sanda-like if they did the Shotokan rule of limiting GnP to 1-2 strikes from a standing position to the downed opponent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by honest_truth View Post
    This was tourney between the best 5 sanda fighters from Russia VS Belarus

    Russia won 4-1, the Belarussian that won was the one who was on the scales.

    There were 5 fights. 5 rounds, 2 minutes each, and scored by 5 judges, if a decision isnt made then a 6th round is announced, and if both fighters are equal then they get weighted and the lighter one wins

    GnP isnt more than 10 seconds, and if the opponent isnt fighting back then its 5 seconds.

    The other talk was about the fighters themselves, that the audience loved the fights and wushu sanda hopes to make the sport popular and available for everyone.
    Thanks for the translation
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    So why was there lolkido?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hesperus View Post
    So why was there lolkido?
    It was just demonstrations between fights and rounds, for the publics entertainment.

    you gotta admit lolkido and steven seagull movies are an entertaining slapfest & crappling comedy worth watching.

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    Great video, great rule change. I hope other san da organizations adopt it.
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    Could someone experienced with San Da speak to what I saw as a greater prevalence of wrestling than I normally see in San Da, and its relationship (if any) to the fact that the fighters were bareback?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1point2 View Post
    Could someone experienced with San Da speak to what I saw as a greater prevalence of wrestling than I normally see in San Da
    I didn't see what I would consider a surprising prevalence of throwing in that video. US-based fighers have traditionally been more striking oriented -- with exceptions, of course -- than, for example, Chinese ones; maybe that's skewing your perception?

    Steve: do you have insight as to how common san shou/combat sambo crosstraining is in Russia? The standup rules are so similar that it seems to me that it would be easy to cross back and forth.
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    I don't know specifically. I bet, like most clubs, folks train for whatever rules they are gearing up for. As far as san da popularity in Russia, they do have strong international teams. I believe on main coach has been Andrei Pokylov (I have to check the spelling), who is also a sambo coach. I have seen the russian team up close here in the US at the 2004 USKBA San Da event where we also held our sambo event. They kicked ass. I do have video somewhere. I will see if I can dig it up.
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    Isn't Russian san da called draka?

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