Page 3 of 3 First 123
  1. #21

    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Indiana
    Posts
    2,147
    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    I find many of the movements I learned in aikido useful or even sneaky for use in bjj. What I did not find useful was the method of practice. I was unable to apply any of these movements until about a year of horrible failures in trying to apply them in bjj class. In contrast to my judo or bjj training in which I was able to apply the movements after a very short time or practice.

    In short, neat to know if you have spare time, but I wouldn't personally bother if you are just bjj/mma focused.
    "a martial art that has no rules is nothing but violence" - Kenji Tomiki

  2. #22

    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Posts
    17
    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Wouldn't this be more effective with Tomiki Aikido?

    I'm still a newbie, so take this with a grain of salt.

    I mean, Tomiki Aikido is the only form of Aikido with competition. So wouldn't that be the best style to try to incorporate things into since the techniques are supposed to "work" in competitions?

    I mean if you wanna help the Aikikai guys out, one big thing you need to do is get them to cut out all the circle **** they do. I mean that **** doesn't work for anything.

  3. #23

    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Canada
    Posts
    1,390
    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    I know a BJJ black belt who uses Hapkido Pressure points while rolling, he is also apparently immune to duck punching and despite being a Judo black belt (before he learned of BJJ) he pretty much exclusively uses the body lock, takedowns in MMA.

    Basically his a strange BB...

  4. #24
    DCS's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Posts
    4,581
    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Quote Originally Posted by Sley View Post
    Or more making your Aikido less crap tastic by giving you effective moves
    My aikido has a lot of effective moves but my bjj instructor told me that hitting people with big wooden sticks is unsportsmanlike.

    :XXjester:

  5. #25

    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Posts
    1,633
    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Do you do any standard aikido techniques in live BJJ rolling? Consistently? And I'm not talking about the occasional wristlock on the the ground. I mean something recognizably like standing/kneeling ikkyo, shiho nage, yonkyo (lol) etc.

  6. #26

    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    Gainesville, FL
    Posts
    69
    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    I have done full on sparring with my aikido instructor (he is also a nidan in karate and has trained in okinawa). I have successfully applied ikkyo, a nishio style nikkyo, kaitenage, and iriminage during those sparring sessions. Nothing looked like what it does during compliant practice and it definitely takes a couple of hits to the head of your opponent before you can apply a technique. He mostly utilized iriminage against me. When he tried to apply ikkyo or nikkyo I would roll out into a position to apply an armbar.

    Aikido definitely needs to use more sparring to create more effective practitioners.

  7. #27
    DCS's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Posts
    4,581
    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    Quote Originally Posted by Res Judicata View Post
    Do you do any standard aikido techniques in live BJJ rolling? Consistently? And I'm not talking about the occasional wristlock on the the ground. I mean something recognizably like standing/kneeling ikkyo, shiho nage, yonkyo (lol) etc.
    I had managed more ikkyos than flying triangles. And enough hip throws and kokyu throws that only noobs try rolling with me starting on feet, vets don't like going airborne. Consistently enough?

    It looks like kata? No, as judo throws in randori don't look like judo kata nor bjj guard passing while rolling looks like textbook "how do standing guard pass 101".

  8. #28

    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Posts
    1,633
    --
    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    I'm interested to see what that looks like. Those are the sort of techniques that look like they could work.

    Most Judo throws and BJJ techniques look pretty close to how they're practiced, when applied, right down to the details.

Page 3 of 3 First 123

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Log in

Log in
Single Sign On provided by vBSSO