Posted On:2/04/2004 11:20am
Style: Im a Lover, not a fighter
"When I say "keylock" I'm talking about something else."
The bicep one I was talking about at SSS, right?
Posted On:2/04/2004 11:22am
i asked what a move was called at my school and they said "its a shoulder lock" i asked what the name was and the blue belt gave me a weird look and repeated slower, "its a shoulder lock"
Posted On:2/04/2004 11:25am
There are lots of shoulder locks... where was it from? I can tell you what its called.
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Posted On:2/04/2004 1:42pm
Style: BJJ, Karate,
The most dangerous leg lock is called a knee compression and it occurs when you're going for a knee bar but your opponent manages to bend his knee. Its mostly taught in Sambo.
When you have your opponents leg straight and he manages to bend his knee you slide one of your arms down to the back of his knee, where the legs bends, and clasp your hands. The next thing you're going to do is throw your leg on TOP of his ankle(just above his instep) and figure four your legs.
you pull with your arm and create downward pressure with your legs. With no space for the knee to compress any futher his knee will literally explode. I saw a Sambo guy get this on a BJJ purple belt at Grapplers Quest in NY. I've never seen that purple belt compete again.
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Posted On:2/04/2004 1:51pm
I know the move you are talking about.... still not as bad as a heel hook
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Posted On:2/04/2004 2:01pm
I pulled off a Catch Wrestling leglock in class last night. Does anyone know what it's called? I learned it last week but this guy don't seem to be big on naming stuff. Anyway here's how it goes:
1) you are on bottom but in half-guard.
2)figure-4 your legs with the bent leg being the one on the outside of the half-guard
3)hook your othe foot under the top guys ankle
4)straighten your legs
It kinda works like a calf crush but you do it with all legs so you can be destracting/defending while you set it up.
Posted On:2/04/2004 2:02pm
Its way WORSE than a heelhook. Ask any doctor.
Posted On:2/04/2004 2:03pm
A heelhook puts pressure(and eventually tears) the medial collateral ligament. A knee compression destroys multiple parts of the knee.
Posted On:2/04/2004 2:06pm
Whiteshark: Thats a variation of the same move. You can actually do it another way from the half guard thats alot easier.
Say I'm on bottom and I have your left leg between mine. I'm going to bump your felt arm and sit up(kind of like a duck under. From there Im going to figure four my legs so that my RIGHT SHIN is in the crook of your knee. I then grab your foot with both my hands and pull hard, compressing the knee and fukking it up very nicely. Thats an easy one if your opponent is dumb enough to let you sit up past his arm.
Posted On:2/04/2004 2:21pm
That's cool but your version doesn't sound easier? Also the one I'm talking about just causes pain in the calf it doesn't really pop the knee like what you are describing.
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