Succes with hop step

**GHemmer** · Posted On: 8/22/2009 6:38pm

So the other day in class we were drilling and the drill was step to 45 degree angle catch kick, cross, throw the leg way from you, hop step, then thai kick. I was just wondering if any of you have had success with the hop step in a fight or just sparring.

**smartangel** · Posted On: 8/22/2009 8:01pm

hop step ???? It's bullshit push step It's better

**GHemmer** · Posted On: 8/23/2009 4:53pm

a hop step is almost like a fake kick you bring your kicking leg up, put it back down, step forward with left foot, and kick

**Hesperus** · Posted On: 8/23/2009 6:27pm

It's so fun to watch n00bs poop in each others' mouths.

**danno** · Posted On: 8/23/2009 8:03pm

you mean like this?

**** is for faggots

**Sang** · Posted On: 8/23/2009 10:58pm

I think what he's talking about is something different danno.

a hop step is almost like a fake kick you bring your kicking leg up, put it back down, step forward with left foot, and kick

I did this off the front leg in both my fights with good results, its essentially just a lead pushkick feint to move into range to throw a rear rib kick. If you want to set it up even better raise the lead leg jab as its coming down to make the range then roll a kick off.

Off the rear leg is a bit different, its a pity I've lost my first fight dvd because the main event won using this throughout the fight. He would feint the kick, see that his target's legs moved closer together then step across and power through a leg kick a moment later.

Feints are extremely useful for making your opponent do what you want, just make sure you don't become predictable or between the dummy and the real kick he's going to counter you hard. Personally i'd start off throwing dummys from the other side of your body first, too many beginners only throw the dummy technique of the technique they are just about to throw (e.g. they are gassed so they throw dummy jabs followed by real jabs) making it very easy to counter them.

**GHemmer** · Posted On: 8/24/2009 9:30am

Originally Posted by danno

you mean like this?

**** is for faggots

No thats not what im talking about, i think sang has the idea of what im talking about.

**Lebell** · Posted On: 8/24/2009 12:19pm

i think ive got some idea what both sang and op mean.
op: after the fake move you sorta step through right?
that stepping through immediately followed by the real kick, can be both body or leg?

it works okay but a more experienced dude could immediately step in, you better make sure your skills are real sharp with that one.

**Efro** · Posted On: 8/28/2009 2:26am

This is what OP is talking about:

YouTube - Donnie B: Muay Thai Round Kick Technique

When the first guy kicks he steps forward and then throws the round kick, where as when Donnie kicks he hops forward instead of stepping. Lots of pros do this, but I think it's a matter of preference and I prefer the hop when I move forward with my kicks.

P.S.- That's an awesome .gif of Machida.

**MMAMickey** · Posted On: 10/29/2009 6:38pm

that kick looks awesome powerful.. That is the way I was always told to kick by one of my coaches.
On the subject of the OP.. I think coming in and kicking off of a punch combo (1,2,kick etc) is more effective only because the other guy can't just step in and whack you. Thai kicks are powerful but they are more obvious than other kicking styles when thrown without distraction.