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    I had a strange thing happen once whilst training a drill and I noticed it happen to others.

    The drill involved uprooting a passive partner but the wierd thing was the uke's (myself included) would at some point start to lean into the oncomming push before it happened, so people would stop just before delivering the push and people would fall over because the anticipated force didnt arrive.

    What was suprising was the look on peoples faces when it happened, I was suprised myself when I did it.

    Strange how memeory work eh? Had forgotten all about that until you mentioned the 'magnet' thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DdlR View Post
    Sounds like you're in a good position to explain both the video and real-life examples.
    I can tell what happened to me.

    A guy from another aikido dojo came to train with us, standard aikikai 1st kyu who recently switched to Iwama style (I also was 1st kyu at that time). We were paired for tachi dori (sword take away) practise.

    As this kind of drill requires being very focused (bokken strikes hurt) plus I had no trust in his ability to avoid injuring me seriously if I missed the technique plus I hate tachi dori drills, I was (psichologically) like in a real fight.

    Add to that we do some things differently compared with other aikido groups. We don't give back the weapon to uke after the disarm; we use it or we throw it away and if we are drilling or testing we throw it near uke but never after putting ourselves at a safe distance. Like in this video

    I started as uke. The guy was working with zero martial intent, poor technique and lack of focus. After various repetitions we switched roles. My psychological state at that moment was "I'm going to fucking kill this asshole" his was "I'm having a nice exercise session".

    He swung the bokken at me, I pulled a disarm and, before I reached a safe distance, the guy tried to grab the bokken (he was expecting me to gave it to him back) to continue drilling.

    Pumped as I was, the look I gave him + body lenguage + posture + I have a big stick.... The guy was frozen, dead on track as if he clashed against a glass door or he was a deer on headlights.

    Fight, fly or freeze. His brain choose the third option for a pair of seconds. A well known response to stress. No ki powers.

    More later.
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    Zanshin.
    What a disgrace it is for a man to grow old without ever seeing the beauty and strength of which his body is capable. -Xenophon's Socrates

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    Quote Originally Posted by DCS View Post
    Some stuff...
    So, when holding a big stick you can look scary to a guy who didn't think he was in a fight? Magic!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PointyShinyBurn View Post
    So, when holding a big stick you can look scary to a guy who didn't think he was in a fight? Magic!
    Look at the context in which he's using this example.

    The guy going deer-in-headlights informs the phenomenon of wildly exaggerated over-compliant ukes that respond to mystical non-techniques.
    What a disgrace it is for a man to grow old without ever seeing the beauty and strength of which his body is capable. -Xenophon's Socrates

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    Quote Originally Posted by PointyShinyBurn View Post
    So, when holding a big stick you can look scary to a guy who didn't think he was in a fight? Magic!
    Magic? Nope.

    Headology.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PointyShinyBurn View Post
    So, when holding a big stick you can look scary to a guy who didn't think he was in a fight? Magic!
    We seem to have not read the same "stuff" or for some reason I don't get what you are saying.

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    Spanish mentalist Victor Cerro performing the usual Ki tricks in a gym.

    Five guys can't push him

    Makes an athletic guy unable to lift a skinny chick
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    Quote Originally Posted by DCS View Post
    Headology.
    Why go to old masters for that?

    Full-lipped ladies in their twenties, on the other hand...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DCS View Post
    Spanish mentalist Victor Cerro performing the usual Ki tricks in a gym.

    Five guys can't push him
    I frequently use a variation of the same stunt (minus the hypnosis schtick) to demonstrate a basic point about leverage and skeletal alignment. If you set it up right, you can "resist" many more people than are shown in this clip who really are trying to push you over.

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