does anyone have a first generation screen grab of the original KFG video? there must be archive software that can restore blythe's video from youtube, so we can get a version with better video quality, to read KFG's shirt. my screen grab looks awful.
I downloaded them in high def the quality wasn't great in the 1st place
Originally Posted by ASBELTOMATO
I really have to go out now but I'll take a look again when I get in
Also you would be surprised with the results that a forensic imaging lab can deliver, so i still think your stills are useful, even if I can't turn up anything better
thanks. if you downloaded them in HD, they are probably better than mine. it would be good to see what you can come up with.
on a different note to forum, didn't blythe at one point mention the PWC Police already looked into the incident? i read a little on a website that the PWC are the main police force, and the Dumfries Police is much smaller, so the PWC Police would be the ones to send information to, not the Dumfries Police.
You are absolutely correct. Based on the evidence I have seen, he might have been 7 at the time. Good work.
Originally Posted by noosphere
Re trying to ID KFG, you might want to contact the Salvation Army in the area,
SALVATION ARMY, 703-221-2267
204 POST POINT ROAD, DUMFRIES VA 22026
if the guy was homeless, poor, mentally challenged, they might have encountered him. It would explain the dated clothes. The SA in my small town (3000) works out of a house and will pay for a night for a transient in a local hotel, give him/her clothes, and vouchers for food.
Just a thought, as they would also have an in to the religious community as well.
Folks, there is a ton of speculation here.
OK, it is safe to assume the proper police agencies are involved. BS members have spoken to some of them, the News video states they are involved - federal and local, the virginia new story has suggested they are involved. You do not need to ask "has anyone contacted the authorities?" any longer.
Second, Everything that is know by BS mods/investigators has not been posted. Some of us have kept names, etc off the boards to prevent vigilante type stuff. So, let's simply say that we have a good idea about the wintnesses, who they may be, etc. So everyone please leave Coldfire alone. If he wants to answer you questions, that is great! but let's not bother him any longer.
Regarding searching morges, hosital records, homeless shelters, churches, etc, These are great ideas. It has been stated already that it will be very difficualt to do that, especially on the net. It will take someone going to the local hospitals, etc, and filing requests in person...and waiting. You will not find old records like this on the net.
Our best efforts right now lie in two areas:
1) Finding the identity of KDG
2) Finding any evidence of police investigations of the event. FOI Requests are already in place for this. It is time to wait and see unfortunately.
At this point, we have discovered much and it is time to chill a bit and see what happens. You can also be sure that authorities are reading this thread and looking at any facts we find, not that we should not share info we find.
But, right now most of the current discussion is mostly speculation. There have been some great suggestions as to where to look for KFG's identity and there have been some great suggestions, theories. But, we need people to act on these, not just talk about them...and they will need to be locals to the area.
If people really want to get the most of this,
Someone needs to go to local hospitals and fill out record requests
Someone needs to go to shelters and churches and show KFG pictures to jog memories
Someone will need to go to local libraries and start digging through archives
Even today, the net will only get you do far. We need feet on the ground most now.
This is not to say that you should not discuss, but I strongly suggest everyone take the time to read the entire thread. I know it is long. I keep doing it over again as well. But, there have been MANY repeat posts, with repeat links, theories, videos, etc. This will make reading the thread more difficult.
For my money, this thread is at a point where it should quiet down while we await the results of what is currently being worked on.
If anyone is motivated and really want's to contribute here, They can take the time to start at the beginning of this thread and create a timeline/summary of the fact discovered. Not theories or pontifications. Simply facts that we know so far. This would be a great contribution.
BJB's hometown website has removed his Crawfish videos. Google cache shows they were there before:
Actually, unless I missed something, the earlier suggestion that CE Jett, the sheriff, was married to Connie Jett was just that: a suggestion, unconfirmed. At that time, I did an intellius "hit" search and found CE Jett, but no "Connie" or "Constance" Jett was listed in his brief relative summary on the "hits" search page. Weehawk may be giving a fairly ironclad confirmation of the link between CE Jett and Connie Jett, which would give a strong link between CE Jett and BJB's school, i.e. confirming the Today Show reporting and suggesting CE Jett -- an active Stafford Co sheriff -- may have been a player in the school during the time period in question. Last I noticed, the link between CE and any Connie Jett was not solidly confirmed.
Originally Posted by sambosteve
WEEHAWK - Is that from Intelius, the link between Charles Jett and Connie Jett, and if so is it Charles E Jett? You used the word "probably," which seems to suggest interpretation on your part?
Last edited by kiai69; 8/26/2009 11:24am at .
From the WA Post article linked by littleoldme:
"Dumfries Town Manager Dave Whitlow ordered [Dumfries police chief Calvin] Johnson to write the letter of apology this week. Whitlow was on vacation when the men were evicted from a wooded area adjacent to Route 1, where a couple of them had lived for more than a year. This was not the way the town wanted to be known, not the way it wanted to act, Whitlow said."
Dave Whitlow would seem to be the man to approach about either pressuring the Dumfries PD to stay on top of this and/or to encourage to look into this in terms of protecting the Dumfries town reputation, nationally.
(To answer a question from earlier about chain of command, potential other persons to contact.)
Last edited by kiai69; 8/26/2009 11:25am at .
This guy may be onto something about the transients. Dumfries even now is a bit out of the way from DC and lilly-white. I can't imagine a homeless person, especially a black one who behaves erratically, to be allowed to roam around by local law enforcement. A man like that would not be a normal presence in the area even today and probably would have been immediately arrested. It would have been virtually impossible for a homeless person from DC to make it out that far on his own, at the time, driving would have been the only way to get out there from the city.
Originally Posted by kiai69
By the way, I always have to blurt out "Nobody messes with me" when I pass a TKD school.