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    Quote Originally Posted by ListenPlease View Post
    one example is at 2 minutes 22 seconds in the video. (02:22)
    Example of what?
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    of how much taller KFG is compared to Willie Dennis at 5'9". Looks to be about 4-5 inches difference to me. There are many other frames during the course of the video to determine KFG is much taller.
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    John Doe's height was supposed to be 5'7 or 5'8 so if KFG is really 6'2 than it wouldn't be possible for the two to be the same person would it?
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    If you want to determine how tall KFG is, take one of the frames where they are standing up straight and facing one another (ie right before the nut kick), measure (pixels or or with a ruler) both men, divide KFG's measurement by WD's and multiply by 69. That's KFG's estimated height in (real world) inches
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    Measurements...

    Ok, at frame (2:56) WD and KFG are at the same distance from the camera, standing upright and facing each other. Here are my measurements in millimeters...

    KFG= 120 mm
    WD= 112 mm

    KFG's measurement divided by WD measurement = 1.0714285 multiplied by 69 = 73.928566 inches

    73.928566 divided by 12 inches = 6.16 which is 6 feet 1.5 inches for KFG's actual height.

    The FBI site states that John Doe was 5'7 to 5'8" tall.
    If John Doe was 5'7-5'8" than he was about 3 to 4 and a half inches shorter than KFG. That's a pretty big difference wouldn't you say? There are alot of similarities between John Doe and KFG but there's a BIG difference in height and that poses the problem of these two not being the same person unfortunately. Do you agree Matt?
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    Matt, will you please post the frame that I'm referring to on here (2:56) as I'm not sure how to do it. It would make it easier for others to see what I'm talking about without them having to look at that video again.

    all throughout the video it's obvious that KFG is much taller than WD. WD is 5'9".
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    3 to 4 inches is not a big deal. 50 pounds is a big deal.
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    Not a Big Deal?

    Why is 3.5 to 4.5 inches "not a big deal?" Seems way more relevant than guessing the weight of skeletal remains.
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    if KFG height is 6' and 1/2" and John Doe's height is 5'7" to 5'8", than the difference in height between these two men would actually be 5 and 1/2 to 6 and 1/2 inches....
    6 inches is a huge difference in height between these two men!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ListenPlease View Post
    Ok, at frame (2:56) WD and KFG are at the same distance from the camera, standing upright and facing each other. Here are my measurements in millimeters...

    KFG= 120 mm
    WD= 112 mm

    KFG's measurement divided by WD measurement = 1.0714285 multiplied by 69 = 73.928566 inches

    73.928566 divided by 12 inches = 6.16 which is 6 feet 1.5 inches for KFG's actual height.

    The FBI site states that John Doe was 5'7 to 5'8" tall.
    If John Doe was 5'7-5'8" than he was about 3 to 4 and a half inches shorter than KFG. That's a pretty big difference wouldn't you say? There are alot of similarities between John Doe and KFG but there's a BIG difference in height and that poses the problem of these two not being the same person unfortunately. Do you agree Matt?
    As long as no one (The police, you, the coroner, etc) made a mistake, then it's a safe bet that John Doe can't be KFG, despite the obvious facial similarity.
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