Michael Proctor of Gamebred Jiu-Jitsu Tacoma, WA

**Kintanon** · Posted On: 2/22/2011 7:27pm

To be fair to him, he is correct, a lot of that info appears to be contained in their facebook page. The Events page lists local events, their photos section has photos of their guys from various comps, etc... Seems like he's just using Facebook as his primary platform, so a lot of the stuff isn't on the website.
That doesn't include his personal competition record, obviously.

**MProctor** · Posted On: 2/22/2011 11:40pm

Stretching things, no. You're asking for my competition record. This is Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. I train and teach for the art, not the record. I don't know anyone that keeps track of every single grappling match throughout their career. I've grappled up to 7 or 8 people in one tournament before. As a competitor, I don't care how many matches I've had. As an instructor I never base someones competition record on their progression in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu because not everyone wants to compete. I stopped keeping track of my competition record as a White Belt.

Here's my Brown Belt Certificate that I promised to post:

**It is Fake** · Posted On: 2/23/2011 2:04am

I'll monitor to watch for trolls, but I do see how your doubletalk lead to someone starting this thread.

**MProctor** · Posted On: 2/23/2011 2:30am

Originally Posted by It is Fake

I'll monitor to watch for trolls, but I do see how your doubletalk lead to someone starting this thread.

First off, thank you.

There's a big difference between doubletalk and not answering questions. I don't have a responsibility to anyone on this forum to even respond at all. This thread doesn't have the power to damage me even if I don't respond. If I beat around the bush sometimes it's because I don't respond well to people I don't know that are sticking their nose in my business. The fact of the matter is, former team mates started this thread in 2008 I believe. That's about three years ago now. I've recieved my Brown Belt since then and I have a very successful academy. My former team mates have moved on, and now this thread is being ran by former students and people that don't even know me. Proof is where it's at, move on. I won't play into it.

**creativo** · Posted On: 2/23/2011 2:47am

This thread has proved that you indeed hold a brown belt, despite the initial claims; and there are people who don't know you because it's the internet, it's quite normal. It's not being "ran".

Facebook or not, anybody who searches your name in the future will see this thread (right now it's the first hit for "michael proctor bjj" on google) and will draw his own conclusions, whether you "play into it" or not.
If you go all "I don't need your stupid thread" you'll have much more in common with a lot of fakes that we've seen around here, than with honest instructors.

There's a bit of an obsession with comp records, because there have been so many fakes whose lack of skills was so well disguised by their self-hype, that the only proof-able way to expose them was thru paperwork, or lack thereof. There have been people sending in photoshopped (fake) belt certificates and such.

Be sure that nobody will be allowed to smear your name or your academy just by talking ****, without providing proof. Please respect the methods and commitments of this forum and you'll only get benefits.

**MProctor** · Posted On: 2/23/2011 3:20am

Originally Posted by creativo

This thread has proved that you indeed hold a brown belt, despite the initial claims; and there are people who don't know you because it's the internet, it's quite normal. It's not being "ran".

Facebook or not, anybody who searches your name in the future will see this thread (right now it's the first hit for "michael proctor bjj" on google) and will draw his own conclusions, whether you "play into it" or not.
If you go all "I don't need your stupid thread" you'll have much more in common with a lot of fakes that we've seen around here, than with honest instructors.

There's a bit of an obsession with comp records, because there have been so many fakes whose lack of skills was so well disguised by their self-hype, that the only proof-able way to expose them was thru paperwork, or lack thereof. There have been people sending in photoshopped (fake) belt certificates and such.

Be sure that nobody will be allowed to smear your name or your academy just by talking ****, without providing proof. Please respect the methods and commitments of this forum and you'll only get benefits.

I can respect this and that's why I've responded to this thread for the last three years, but it gets very old after so long. There's plenty of people on this thread telling everyone that they know me and have trained with me or witnessed me, yet it continues. I won't spend the rest of my career responding to the same type of bs all the time. I could care less about popping up in Google. It brings me attention and my success speaks for itself. This thread is truly a joke at this point.

**Goju - Joe** · Posted On: 2/23/2011 7:31am

The guy has a point if it is proven that he is not full of **** and on the up and up there should be a summation and the thread locked

**Kintanon** · Posted On: 2/23/2011 7:54am

As IIF Reminded me, we pretty much never lock threads. Even Omega's old investigation thread is still open.

**It is Fake** · Posted On: 2/23/2011 10:35am

Originally Posted by MProctor

First off, thank you.

There's a big difference between doubletalk and not answering questions. I don't have a responsibility to anyone on this forum to even respond at all. This thread doesn't have the power to damage me even if I don't respond. If I beat around the bush sometimes it's because I don't respond well to people I don't know that are sticking their nose in my business. The fact of the matter is, former team mates started this thread in 2008 I believe. That's about three years ago now. I've recieved my Brown Belt since then and I have a very successful academy. My former team mates have moved on, and now this thread is being ran by former students and people that don't even know me. Proof is where it's at, move on. I won't play into it.

No one said you have a responsibility, no one said you had to have videos for EVERY match, no one said you have to answer all questions, and no one said you have to name every competition. "All" and "every" are words you added to the questions so, you could conveniently ignore the legitimate questions that people asked you.

That is double speak.

A simple response is I have been competing for a decade a remember some events not all. I have some videos not all.

No one cares that OMEGA, who has been competing since the eighties IIRC doesn't have videos for every event. He has enough videos to show he was a professional fighter and that is the end. All he has is a highlight video which includes a couple of losses IIRC. There are people who have NO videos who have been shown to be legit. There are people with less than 5 MMA events that have been proven legit. It isn't about the amount it is about the truth. You look to have a Brown in BJJ and a successful fight team and Kintanon is trying to help clear up the thread to stop the BS trolls. I culled the troll out and renamed his thread so, it has no tie to this one.

You are so angry you can't tell the difference between help and hindrance.
While I agree it is dragging on, unless you are talking about other forums this thread started in 2009.

**Navita** · Posted On: 1/17/2012 3:24am

Name of michaels school has changed again it is now Brazilian jiu jitsu academy of tacoma. In a year the name has been changed twice. It was gambred the fife Brazilian jiu jitsu now Brazilian jiu jitsu academy of tacoma. I have also heard some of his blue belts have changed schools to lotus club (very good school further north)