It's been awhile Shaolin-Do is back.

**Dak** · Posted On: 8/12/2009 11:58am

Originally Posted by Mantis_Fist

OK, I heard back from my email.

I seriously don't think this kid is going to be back to reply on this thread any time soon. There is a SD facebook group should you guys want to join:

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=34676270070

sweet jeebus! a dispute was settled without fighting... ON BULLSHIDO!?!?!!??!

im proud to have witnessed such a thing

**Crushing Step** · Posted On: 8/12/2009 7:17pm

Originally Posted by Dak

sweet jeebus! a dispute was settled without fighting... ON BULLSHIDO!?!?!!??!

im proud to have witnessed such a thing

Settled quietly between one side (me) and the other guy's big brother. It's not like there was an amicable ending between the two of us.

Also as a side note, the douchebagalert link goes to an invalid picture now. This means a user (tswitzerd) must have complained to that site to have his picture removed, which also means he is still reading this thread. This also means he hasn't retracted his insults towards Bullshido as a whole, or his challenge, or offered an apology for any of the above.

So to my friend tswitzerd, I still think you're a douchebag.

**Psycho Dad** · Posted On: 8/12/2009 8:04pm

Nor has he kept his word about leaving the site.

:munky2::5bye:

**Dak** · Posted On: 8/12/2009 11:48pm

Originally Posted by Mantis_Fist

Settled quietly between one side (me) and the other guy's big brother. It's not like there was an amicable ending between the two of us.

Also as a side note, the douchebagalert link goes to an invalid picture now. This means a user (tswitzerd) must have complained to that site to have his picture removed, which also means he is still reading this thread. This also means he hasn't retracted his insults towards Bullshido as a whole, or his challenge, or offered an apology for any of the above.

So to my friend tswitzerd, I still think you're a douchebag.

allow me to commend you for the peaceful resolution.

**Crushing Step** · Posted On: 8/13/2009 6:12am

Thanks Dak

**Crushing Step** · Posted On: 8/13/2009 6:54pm

Update: Tim and I have spoke privately, looks like we've got no beef left.

**steve8k** · Posted On: 9/02/2009 11:57am

I was a teaching in Richmond, KY back in the early 80's and at that time Bill Leonard was teaching Shotokan, then reemerges a few years later as a Grandmaster in the most fake, but apparently lucrative Martial Art I've ever seen. A great book to read is "Bluegrass Conspiracy" although Bill Leonard is not mentioned until the end of the book, it will give you insight into what type of person he is.

**Cougar Spirit** · Posted On: 9/02/2009 2:53pm

OK, BL messed up and was involved in the whole mess outlined in Bluegrass Conspiracy, but I do not believe he ever studied or taught Shotokan. He did a little Judo early on, but has been die hard SD since about 1967. And, he is an elder, not grand master.

**steve8k** · Posted On: 9/02/2009 3:15pm

I get the impression that you are not going to believe anything about him unless it has to do with how great he is. He was teaching at Four Seasons Martial Arts in Richmond and then started teaching a class at Kit Carson Elementary on Tuesday nights when Four Seasons moved to Lexington. Don't get me wrong he was very impressive in Shotokan (and it was Shotokan). I have known him and Sin The for 30 years and know how they work. It's your money and your time so as long as you are happy thats all that matters.

**Vince Tortelli** · Posted On: 9/02/2009 8:01pm

Originally Posted by Phrost

Didn't Hedge, as a BJJ white belt, tap out several SD blackbelts?

Originally Posted by Hedgehogey, in this thread[/i

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Just the two.

Originally Posted by Hedgehogey, Shaolin do Sparring Report, Bullshido Classics and Mega Threads

I won't bore you with details. Straight to the sparring (Rules: no biting).
The first one was me vs a second degree. We exchange blows on the feet, me getting off more leg kicks and he more punches. He catches one of my kicks, whirls me around. I go to guard, sweep him over and struggle for a foot or leg submission. I can't get enough leverage, so I go to guard again. He tries for GnP, I catch the arm for an armbar.

Second match: Me vs a second degree (fresh). This was signifigantly harder and ended inconclusively, with much wrangling over the rules.
Although I didn't feel them at the time, now my shoulder is hurting from the axe kicks, and i'm unable to hold my right arm up.
He consistently out punched me and snapped down my takedowns (I suspect he either prepared extensively beforehand or wrestled) for about ten minutes, though I got in a few leg kicks. I pull guard/start buttscooting when one of the other black belts suddenly runs up to me to stop the fight. Turns out my nose and lip were bloody.

LYING!
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