Thread: Favorite Pugilists
8/06/2009 1:09am, #11
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8/06/2009 1:20am, #12
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8/06/2009 1:23am, #13
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8/06/2009 5:39am, #15
Disagree with Johnson but only 'cos he was well known as Obnoxious. He won the title from Burns (5ft 7ins) defended against Ketchel (5ft 7ins) would NOT defend against Langford (5ft 7ins) nor Jeanette nor any African American. Genuinely lost to Willard. Was Jealous and spoke ill of Joe Louis. Genuinely lost to a 1-Eyed fighter, yes, Marvin Hart...not many know that.
Muhammad Ali (Cassius Clay). The Masterful (and Brave) Ring General. The Brillliant Will o' The Wisp (Brave and Elusive).
LW. Ken Buchanan. Brilliantly elusive. Tough.
Sugar Ray Leonard. Genuis.
Sugar Ray Robinson. Genius. Check his incredible Ring Record.
Thomas Hearns. I loved watching him deliver 1 punch KOs and he boxed.
I could go on but would only bore. Overall, Ali/Clay for me (cos I saw many of his fights and I know the context.
Jack Dempsey. Obviously Great. The book's good but lacks a Ring Bio.
Gene Tunney. His recent Bio has both his and Jack's Ring Records. Good. He also wrote his own Auto-bio "A Man Must Fight" which I've never managed to read. His whole being/Career was targetted at Dempsey. Personally, he was a snob. His wife Polly Launder passed away last year IIRC.
Anyway. Good subject and good replies. :icon_thum
8/06/2009 5:52am, #16
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1. Jack Dempsey
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8/06/2009 6:00am, #17
Daniel Mendoza - 5'7" 160 lb bare-knuckle champion who beat the heaviest men at a time when there were no weight divisions in professional prize-fighting. Also credited with introducing scientific defense.
8/06/2009 8:09am, #18
There are some nice suggestions on here so far....
Ah, well if we are dipping into more modern era fighters:
~I second Eddie's mention of Tommy Hearns. I loved watching Hit Man in his wars with the top Welter-Middleweight fighters of his day. He had great speed, great power and an awesome slip utilizing the Kronk guard. His chin.....not so much.
~Greg Haugen. This guy went from fighting Heavyweights in Alaskan Toughman competitions to beating, arguably, the time's most skilled Lightweight champion Jimmy Paul. Guy had some great wars with Vinnie Pazienza, both verbal and physical, and wasn't known for any individual skills, but more his heart and tenacity and his ability to just take a beating and outlast his opponent.
~Floyd Patterson. Just an all around classy guy. Small heavyweight who managed to stand in with the bigger guys and almost captured the Hvy title for a third time, were it not for a pesky creature known as Cassius Clay. Along with Jose Torres was crucial in paving the way for a Mike Tyson by legitimizing Cus D'Amato as a quality trainer. Also, KOed Ingmar Johannson with a Superman Punch.
8/06/2009 8:34am, #19
Jimmy Paul. When he won his IBF World title it even surprised Manny Steward. He'd thought of Paul as the least talented fighter in the Kronk (apparently) hence the surprise.
OK, who's going to mention Charley Burley - of whom we've heard but few have seen?
Archie Moore. Won the LH World title likely over 40 years - held if for 10years and had most defences until Mike Spinks. Most KOs. Fought for the title against Rocky, lost the vacated title to Floyd P. and lost his last fight to young Clay (Ali) when he was, what(?) 50years. Anyone ever seen his defence against the Canadian Yvon Durelle? Oh My Word.:drunken_s
8/06/2009 9:55am, #20
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