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    Quote Originally Posted by Rafael View Post

    Compared to other fight promotions, that's what I wanted to say.

    Fights like Anderson Silva vs Thales Leites, Crocop vs Al Turk, or Coleman vs Bonnar are not really what one would call "positive promotion for MMA", or would one?

    IMO, the UFC considerably lacks rules that allow attacks from a standing to a grounded opponent. In direct relation to this, I would count the fact that Dream's mammoth first round encourages more KOs, which is something we also don't see far too often in the UFC. (Not that I was that bloodthirsty, but you gotta give some spectacle from time to time.)

    As to the fighters, let's shine a bit:

    Brock Lesnar - SUPER heavyweight fighting in the heavyweight division.
    You don't understand what I mean, let's have Anderson Silva go against the likes of BJ Penn. As long as he doesn't get an opponent of his own size, I guess the UFC heavyweight division will be lame, no matter if he fights Fedor, or not.

    Lyoto Machida - still not really tested as a fighter, and possibly the best the UFC has to offer right now. Yet, a tremendous douchebag whenever he speaks to a microphone.

    Anderson Silva - Laaame. Delivered three or four boring fights in a row. The best middleweight in the UFC would be Demian Maia, but the Silva hype might prevent him from getting the chance he deserves. Vitor Belfort and Mousasi would be the ones I personally would call the best middleweights in the world.

    Georges St Pierre - a good fighter, but in a boring division. A UFC brand name, he will dodge the big names for the next few years; Sakurai, Diaz, Zaromskis.

    BJ Penn - failed to impress in his fight against St Pierre, but is still the head of a weak division, apart from Kenny Florian. To make lightweight MMA interesting again, the UFC should try to contract Aoki Shinya, Eddie Alvarez (which they admittedly tried), or Joachim Hansen.

    Not saying the UFC doesn't to offer a lot already, but IMO it's far from being the BEST MMA promotion, though surely the most popular.

    And besides that, my profile is way outdated, ******.
    heh. 7/10. good one you actually had me trolled there.
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    Probably being really dense here, but what does the co-promo deal actually entail? Are M1 going to be branding Strikeforce events as M1 events when showing them in Russia for example or are they just going to tack M1 onto the event names where Fedor is fighting? I actually see the first suggestion as a better solution, allows Strikeforce to break into a market outside of the US, with little or no risk or overhead, and its something that could be done in other areas, like the UK with Cage Warriors (or BAMMA or whatever...) for example. I get the feeling its the second suggestion though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theotherserge View Post
    Folkstyle wrestling isn't even practiced in Russia AFAIK, its a pussified version of Freestyle catered to spoiled American youth...
    ...I think Kazakh-Kures is a pussified version of freestyle catered to spoiled Kazakh youth...

    Not an expert, but as far as I know American folkstyle is not derived from freestyle. Both styles come from the same roots.

    I'm sure folkstyle wrestling is practiced in Russia, only it's Russian folkstyle and not American folkstyle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UpaLumpa
    Carwin has one high profile win and really hasn't fought long enough to show much besides KO power.
    Lesnar was given a title shot with a record of 2-1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KhorneliusPraxx View Post
    Lesnar was given a title shot with a record of 2-1.
    And? What makes you think I'd agree with that either?
    However, Lesnar's wins are more impressive than Carwin's (IMO) and Lesnar actually has considerably more fight experience than Carwin. Moreover, Lesnar's wrestling credentials are also more impressive than Carwin's. Carwin seems like a more decent person though.
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    Anyone in for a bet that we will see Kimbo vs Lesnar before 2011,
    if Slice passes TUF?
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    Anyone in for a bet that we will see Kimbo vs Lesnar before 2011,
    if Slice passes TUF?
    I cant think of any UFC fight that can possibly be more one sided.
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    yeah, kimbo vs bob sapp might make more sense. they both suck pretty bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by madrigan View Post
    ...I think Kazakh-Kures is a pussified version of freestyle catered to spoiled Kazakh youth...

    Not an expert, but as far as I know American folkstyle is not derived from freestyle. Both styles come from the same roots.

    I'm sure folkstyle wrestling is practiced in Russia, only it's Russian folkstyle and not American folkstyle.
    well. now you're being too intelligent for this debate:

    "M-1 SUX!!! America rules. 'merican'rasslin>Ruskie'rasslin. UFC! UFC! UFC!"

    "In Soviet Russia, you not smash Fedor, Fedor smash you."

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