Thread: The Quote Graveyard
9/17/2006 4:45am, #171Originally Posted by patfromloganKungfoolss, Scourge of the theory-based stylists, Most Feared man at Bullshido.com, and the Preeminent Force in the martial arts political arena
9/17/2006 4:51am, #172
"Now, before all you politically sensitive martial artists out there get you panties in a bunch, listen to what I am telling you here, I am not making fun of retarded children. That would serve literally no purpose. No my friends, I am merely taking this opportunity to point out that it doesn't take terribly much in way of brain power nor physical ability to be a willing participant in the stylistic arts.
If you can have such mentally and physically handicapped individuals partaking in the martial arts, can the arts realistically prove challenging or worthwhile? Consider this, would you ever allow these individuals to drive a car, boat, plane or similar motorized vehicle? Of course you would not, such activities takes a great amount of responsibility, not to mention an average IQ level to operate such machinery in a safe manner for both the driver and others that share the same environment.
However, while such individuals are clearly unqualified to drive, thereby endangering the citizenry, they are not prohibited from joining the martial arts. Whether you are a genius, average joe, or the retarded, you can participate in the stylist arts." Kungfoolss 2002Kungfoolss, Scourge of the theory-based stylists, Most Feared man at Bullshido.com, and the Preeminent Force in the martial arts political arena
9/17/2006 5:01am, #173
"According to an article in the Journal of Asian Martial Arts, "the literate Chinese elite traditionally took a jaundiced view of physical combat and were inclined to ignore the arts." Indeed, "martial artists were, almost by definition, members of the illiterate lower classes and unable to leave written records of their own history.
And, in the eyes of the elite record keepers, martial artists were not merely social inferiors - because of their frequent association with the underworld and seditious activities, they were often regarded as criminals."
Erwin de Castro, B. J. Oropeza and Ron Rhodes
"I felt a little ill a short time later but my mental discipline from being a black belt in martial arts prevented me from throwing up."
Schwartz, 45, after puting away 14 glazed krispy kreme doughnuts just to impress his in-laws. A record he's immensely proud of.
"When I do my kicks, I don't want to rip my boxers. They are real comfortable."
Kyneth Atwater, Taekwondo male student commenting on wearing thongs during his martial arts workouts
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9/17/2006 5:08am, #174
"If I take your life, obviously you're dead. How does confidence enter into the equation?"
Kungfoolss commenting upon Kung fu san soo, Jimmy H. Woo's famous "You can take my life but not my confidence." line 2002
"My research and focus at the moment, centers on the psychological and pathological makeup of the individual drawn to the stylistic arts in the first place.
As far as karate goes... well, let's just say it doesn't take a genius to see what's wrong with it."
"It is an absurd notion that an article about the martial arts must be written by an actual stylist. If such ridiculous logic is taken to the extreme, any particular art by this measure may only be written by the practitioner of the style itself.
There is a problem with this narrow perspective, it denies the fact that the individuals predictable bias and political agenda deliberately skews the objectivity of the work."
"Ok, let's assume you want brain-surgery. Are you going to go to someone with an actual, working knowledge of brain-surgery or are you going to go to an article written about what brain-surgery looks like from an outsiders perspective?
I'm no wholely against articles written by non-martial artists, but it is a pretty valid argument."
"As a practice, in many of these articles, rarely does it ever specify that the writer is in fact a stylist themselves, while they may not be a practitioner of the art their article is featuring, there is almost never any evidence (outside of an actual martial arts magazine) that they may indeed have a MA, TMA, NHB, SD, etc., background limited or otherwise.
In any event, the martial arts is not brain surgery, no, more along the same levels as Special Ed. Frankly, it's not a complicated science."
"I'm afraid not, the MMA's is a combat philosophy that is primarily sports-oriented, I don't consider myself competitor when it pertains to life and death confrontations. Nevertheless, because the MMA's are not bound by esoteric mysticism and other worthless aspects of traditional dogma of the eastern-based arts, one could put forth a very credible argument that the MMA's may have certain advantages of realism over the traditionalists whom have never really fought outside of the safety of their dojo environment.
This is the reason why many traditionalists are smashed to a pulp after engaging a MMA fighter (and even the uneducated street fighter). MMA's are not impressed with the traditionalists many colored belts with their cute little taped and striped ends, the countless hours performing some idiotic ceremonial dance routines to improve fighting form, the incessant spiritual brainwashing and cultism, or the repetitive and stationary strikes leveled against imaginary foes, much of which parallels the religious fervor of Islamic fundamentalism.
What allows the MMA's to dominate the traditionalists, is exactly because their training lacks this foolishness, basically, they train the way they fight. Now, this may be an advantage given a particular set of variables, or in the same vein, becomes their greatest weakness, in either circumstance, the burden in my professional opinion is on the TMA's.
Subsequently, many traditionalists assume the solution to this problematic symptom resides in the ignorance of cross-training. Incidentally, whether they realize or not, the many "reality-based" combat arts likewise fall into this category of false truths; krav maga, spears, san soo, dynamic combat, Rmcat, defendu, Rat and countless others. It is an empirical fact, that krav maga boasts that it's philosophy and training serves to compliment existing arts in the stylists repertoire, thereby, neglecting the universal truth that many arts simply have an incompatibility with one another. By accumulating knowledge in this manner, serves only to act as a polarity, causing each differing belief structure to cancel each other out.
Every style fosters their own sets principles-faulty though they may be-and values that may conflict when overlaid to an existing belief structure. The stylist may very well abandon his existing set of convictions, realizing they were a complete waste of time; up until the point he discovers something new further on down the road, which in turn, will void these new beliefs. Alternatively, he may come to the realization that this new pursuit has proven equally as worthless, and the traditionalist may wander from style to style in this manner throughout his adult life, leading to a continuous cycle of perpetual ignorance and frustration for the individual stylist. With this understanding, we can see that the mantra of, "It's the individual and not the art," really is multifaceted and not restricted to the wisdom of conventional thought alone, that the art itself becomes as much to blame as a catalyst for failure as is the martial artist himself.
As the old axiom goes, two wrongs and even with the possibility of a third, will never equal a single right."
Kungfoolss responding when asked if he practiced MMA 2002
"While my training partner and I was working out this morning, he recounted a past experience of his when he was training in kung fu. A fellow student and buddy of his would give him pointers on being at a constant state of readiness to deal with any threat. This stylist would give ridiculous explanations to his logic, such as, my partner would come up and shake this guys hand as a greeting and then be chastised by this individual, telling my buddy, "I could've killed you a dozen different ways from that handshake alone. You have to be ready for anything."
To which I rolled my eyes and stated that sort of stylistic nonsense is apt to put one in a state of paranoia, therefore beneficial to none. Continuing his tale, the same individual was experienced in many Chinese fighting arts and deeply devoted with their spiritual aspects as well. One spiritual practice involved fasting with meditation. The idiot was found dead in his apartment and the coroner ruled the death as a result of malnutrition.
I laughed saying, "Oh come on. I know martial artists are morons, but that's a bit off the wall." My friend then replied, "No, it's true. My master (kung fu instructor) and the rest of the class attended his wake." I chuckled a bit more and then put it out of my mind focusing on our workout."
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9/17/2006 6:06am, #175
Source: Comedy central's, the John Stewart show
Subject: John Stewart commenting upon an incident involving some unfortunate criminal attempting to carjack a van full of judo stylists.
John Stewart: "Judo is described by many as the gentle way."
(Producers switch from John to an interview with one of the judo members involved with the altercation)
Some redheaded judo chick: "I was trying to put the guy in a choke hold, but I couldn't because the other guys were punching him so I began to punch him in the head too."
(Interview ends and immediately cuts back to John)
John Stewart: (An expression of wryness)
Article: 'Why Bruce Lee turned to weight training'
Article excerpts -
"Bruce Lee was proud of his physique and enjoyed removing his shirt to reveal his well-muscled upper body. When he wasn't doing sit-ups, he would be squeezing a rubber ball or pumping a pair of dumbbells. Desiring accolades, many times he would ask a friend or acquaintance to place a hand on his abdomen or leg to "feel my stomach muscles" or "feel how hard my legs are."
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9/17/2006 7:13am, #176
Okay maybe the last two are funny.
10/25/2006 11:57am, #177
Two quotes from the Colonel to add for posterity.
Originally Posted by colonelpongOriginally Posted by colonelpong"Preparing mentally, the most important thing is, if you aren't doing it for the love of it, then don't do it." - Benny Urquidez
10/27/2006 8:37pm, #178
Originally Posted by Hannibal:
Shuma-Gorath still represents everything wrong with this world today. Computer geeks who have too much of a say. WHen your a proffessional fighter and winning titles, sure. Then you can start flamming others and make fun of them on the internet. Untill then despite what style you do, respect and courtesy should be given on the internet.
Reply Posted by Lu Tze:
Over dramatize much?
You truely think some over zealous BJJ nutrider deleting **** threads in a grappling subforum on the internet represents eveything that's wrong with the world today? Go get your fucking brain reformatted you waste of life."Preparing mentally, the most important thing is, if you aren't doing it for the love of it, then don't do it." - Benny Urquidez
11/01/2006 9:53pm, #179
This post caught my attention with the "selfesteemselfconfidencefitness concentrationculturalwhateverkaratekid nonsense bullshit..." and then by the end I had tears in my eyes. What a shame...
Originally Posted by fubar"Preparing mentally, the most important thing is, if you aren't doing it for the love of it, then don't do it." - Benny Urquidez
12/09/2006 11:09am, #180
Originally Posted by MSphinx
I only masturbate because my sexual technique is too deadly for teh bed.
Originally Posted by deus ex machina
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