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    Quote Originally Posted by Hesperus View Post
    Don't do what the moron in the second picture is doing with his arms.
    You're of the "just fucking grab the arm" school of thought? I've been partial to the "hug and squeeze it and maybe grab my own collar" ryu of armbars.
    What a disgrace it is for a man to grow old without ever seeing the beauty and strength of which his body is capable. -Xenophon's Socrates
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    I say, Sup wrist? And then I proceed to monkey grip it. I also prefer the first one, foot under the ribs. It helps me stretch the arm, which makes it more uncomfortable, and I can squeeze my knees tighter. The first one offers more control, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cy Q. Faunce
    3moose1 is correct. Sig THAT, you fucker.

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    I went out with a delightful young woman who was on a regimen of pills that made her taste of burned onions.
    That is not conducive to passionate cunnilingus, my friend, let me assure you.
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    imho if they can't escape, can't twist their elbow or body and you've got leverage, you're doing it right (as far as the grip goes).
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3moose1 View Post
    I also prefer the first one, foot under the ribs.
    so if you ended up in the second one, you'd consider transitioning to the first?
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    Quote Originally Posted by danno View Post
    imho if they can't escape, can't twist their elbow or body and you've got leverage, you're doing it right.

    Psh, what do you know? You're just a purple belt!

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    Quote Originally Posted by danno View Post
    so if you ended up in the second one, you'd consider transitioning to the first?

    Hell no! Lol, But most of my armbars tend to be from side control or near side Knee on belly

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cy Q. Faunce
    3moose1 is correct. Sig THAT, you fucker.

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    I went out with a delightful young woman who was on a regimen of pills that made her taste of burned onions.
    That is not conducive to passionate cunnilingus, my friend, let me assure you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1point2 View Post
    You're of the "just fucking grab the arm" school of thought? I've been partial to the "hug and squeeze it and maybe grab my own collar" ryu of armbars.
    The people that've taught me thus far are, anyway. It might be different if he actually had a collar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3moose1 View Post
    Psh, what do you know? You're just a purple belt!

    (note: sarcasm)
    i could be wrong - there might be the perfect ultra-efficient tight and awesome way to grip. but i use different grips all the time, sometimes switching between them to get better position and so on.

    more often lately i've been controlling their leg and/or opposite arm to prevent their escape. so i could have one hand hugging their arm/grabbing the wrist, one arm hooking the knee/grabbing the gi pants and my feet tangled in their opposite arm.

    Quote Originally Posted by 3moose1 View Post
    Hell no! Lol, But most of my armbars tend to be from side control or near side Knee on belly
    ah, gotcha.

    see, that's the problem with the OP's question. he's asking if you should choose one or the other, but really the situation will dictate which one you use.
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    Please note I was kidding. Your note about controlling really hit home though. On whites and blues, I can armbar like a champ.

    On my coach, I'm like, "Oh **** yeah, armba- wait, waht are you doing? what? WHAT THE **** DON'T DO THAT NOOOOOOOOO"

    So i need to control more?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cy Q. Faunce
    3moose1 is correct. Sig THAT, you fucker.

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    I went out with a delightful young woman who was on a regimen of pills that made her taste of burned onions.
    That is not conducive to passionate cunnilingus, my friend, let me assure you.
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    We had a seminar with Carlos 'Portugues' Vieira a few weeks back, and he suggested using your leg-side arm to grab the hand as if you're shaking hands with the guy, and using the other hand to control his wrist.

    That seemed to provide good control, however by the time you went to grab the hand you could have already tapped him out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3moose1 View Post
    Please note I was kidding.
    hehe yeah, but a black belt could visit this thread any second and tell me i'm full of ****.

    Quote Originally Posted by 3moose1 View Post
    So i need to control more?
    yeah. i can armbar most white belts using only my left ear right arse cheek if i want to. it's one of the stronger parts of my game. but i got sick of higher level guys escaping, twisting about and passing or whatever. now i try to tie them in a complete knot and make them completely immobile before doing the actual arm bar.

    unless i'm going for a fast armbar, when i get a tap before they have a chance to mount a defence.
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