Thread: Judo, Aikido or Krav Maga ?
1/26/2004 4:42pm, #11Originally posted by punchingdummy
The priorities are (a) muzzle control - which includes your own body manipulation, (b) trigger control and then (c) weapon control. In most situations, a kick to the groin will increase the chances of that head shot.
1/26/2004 4:43pm, #12
I would say take both judo and krav magda. With krav magda you learn the basics in a short while.Ghost of Charles Dickens
1/26/2004 4:49pm, #13
"yeah the problem is you get shot in the face when you grab a gun and move it towards the sky when it's pointed at your chest
not to mention NOT moving out of the way but instead attempting a groin kick..."
I donít know what you have seen but the good Krav Maga stuff is pretty damn good, that includes the stuff involving guns. My schoolís gun defenses are almost identical in application and strategy.
And as for trying to raise the gun up into the air, when it is pointed at your chest, there are valid reasons to do this. Probably the biggest one is innocent bystanders. What good is a disarm that makes you safe, but points the gun directly at your wife who was walking at your side?
1/26/2004 5:16pm, #14
wouldn't pointing it down and shooting the little head be better than up and shooting the big head? :) both keep the wife safe...
1/26/2004 5:37pm, #15
Kodokan Judo? Uh uh ride them NUTZ!!11
Translation: "Sir may I suggest you give Judo a try?"
1/26/2004 5:43pm, #16
JUDO!And that's when I figured out that tears couldn't make somebody who was dead alive again. There's another thing to learn about tears, they can't make somebody who doesn't love you any more love you again. It's the same with prayers. I wonder how much of their lives people waste crying and praying to God. If you ask me, the devil makes more sense than God does. I can at least see why people would want him around. It's good to have somebody to blame for the bad stuff they do. Maybe God's there because people get scared of all the bad stuff they do. They figure that God and the Devil are always playing this game of tug-of-war game with them. And they never know which side they're gonna wind up on. I guess that tug-of-war idea explains how sometimes, even when people try to do something good, it still turns out bad.
1/26/2004 6:13pm, #17
I have to go with Krav Maga on this one. You already have a good grappling base from your bjj and if youíre looking for a chance of pace judo might be too similar.
If you want to be well rounded and do something new, Krav Maga is the place to go. I donít know what your previous training was like, but I think Krav Maga would be a nice place to balance and integrate the skills you got from karate and bjj.
If you didnít have the background you specified, Iíd just say try a few classes at them all and see what was most your style.
1/26/2004 8:16pm, #18
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What he says but John I'm curious - what is your Aikido style.
I'ld also like to know why Neuro doesn't want to do BJJ - if he wants something different than maybe Judo is not different enough.
Krav Magna never impressed me that much - too much half assed situational training - BUT might be worth taking for a year or so just to look at MA from a self defence point of view as opposed to the BJJ approach. Don't rag me about BJJ being good for self defence too - in that regard it has a lot of assmptions built in. Then again so does Krav Magna but they are different assumptions.
Aikikai Aikido is overrated by some, underrated by others. Again, trying it for a year or so is not going to hurt and you just might get lucky. That said, if you read the forums at Aikido Journal, the amount of petty bullshit that comes from Brazil is unreal. I wouldn't go near any of their dojos. There is Tomiki Aikido in Brazil - they do full resistance training but I don't know much about them other than training with the son of the main guy down there. He was good and had a great attitude.
Originally posted by John A Butz
Watch the classes and see which one you like better. Talk to the instructors, observe the students, and determine where you would like to train.
As for the arts, I can only really speak for aikido, and as I am not an Aikikai stylist, I can't give you great detail. Aikikai runs the gamut from incredibly good to very very bad in terms of quality of technique and instruction. Depending on the attitude and ability of the instructor, you will either learn a good number of suplementary techniques and principles that you can attach to what you already know, or you end up with totally cooperative, compliant, "spiritual" training that is very far removed from reality. If you had Tomiki or Yoshinkan aikido availible, you might consider them first.
Check it all out, see what you like.
1/26/2004 9:22pm, #19
I say Judo. Bugger Aikido as most of the time they have no realistic sparring. Krav Manga is one of those overated slaptogether arts. Just take Judo.Hannibal: The sworn enemy of dishonest politicians, source of entertainment on Bullshido and newly appointed Office Linebacker. Terry Tait ain't got **** on me !!!!
1/27/2004 3:34am, #20
One point though Hannibal, a lot of the "realistic" sparring in aikido is behind closed doors for advanced students. I know, to most people this approach sucks. I wanted to do aikido so I dealt with the idea.