Traditional Martial Arts and Guard Position

[Matt Phillips]

How can you incorporate TMA techniques with a guard position more similar to Muay Thai/boxing?

Just a point of clarification: in their pure form, these two guards are quite different (see the two fighters below)

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[1point2]

By "TMA" he means theory-based martial arts like bad karate, bad kung fu, the Booj, etc. The bottom line is that theory-based martial arts need to drop their approach to techniques. Once they accept that to learn fighting, one does not think about fighting, or talk about fighting, but rather, practices fighting and has fights (preferably safe ones in competition), the disparity between techniques dissolves away nearly immediately. It happened for Motobu's ryukyu kempo, it happened for Kyokushin, it happens for all the good kung fu.

[Scott Larson]

So what you are saying is that TMA should stand for Theoretical Martial Arts now?

I like it.

[Evil Solvalou]

So what you are saying is that TMA should stand for Theoretical Martial Arts now?

I like it.

So do I. It's perfect, and provides a neat solution to the problem that arises when people point out that arts like Boxing, Judo and BJJ are traditional martial arts.

So what would be the other group of martial arts? We can't use competitive martial arts as the acronym CMA is taken. Sportive Martial Arts (SMA)?

[Lindz]

Practical MA
Emperical MA

Is there a working definition for TMA? It seems like it gets used as a blanet term for arts taht get little or no respect on bullshido,

[1point2]

Combat sports.

[Evil Solvalou]

Combat sports.

But that could be interpreted as any sport derived from combat, regardless of how far it's moved from it's combat roots. For example fencing, point sparring arts, TKD.

Even things like the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biathlon, javelin and archery are also derived from combat.

At least, that's the way I used to interpret the term combat sports.

[maofas]

Is there a working definition for TMA?

Anything you wear pajamas for basically.

[Evil Solvalou]

Anything you wear pajamas for basically.

So what about Judo and Boxing? (Some people wear boxer shorts to bed. Me for example.)

[Scott Larson]

The Vale Tudo short shorts are basically boxer briefs, so that counts too.

(This tangent has really gone on too far.)