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    I've just speed read the book. My gut feeling is either total pack of lies or totally over dramatised low level unlicenced boxing matches.

    Here are Carl Merritt's claims:

    1. Started training in boxing as a child at the Westham Boys Club

    2. Fought first boxing match a the age of 11 and lost to a kid from the Repton Club.

    3. Got in a fight outside a pub at the age of 15. His opponent hit him with a metal bar. His jaw had to be wired and his face rebuilt. His trainer said he'd never box again. His career was over. (Note that there was no mention of a boxing medical and he somehow managed to subsequently fight as a professional "cage fighter")

    4. Was jailed for three months for GBH after stabbing his mothers new boyfriend in the kidney with a pen. He says his mothers boyfriend was abusive.

    5. Aged 16 his uncle got him a chance to fight professional unlicenced boxing matched. His first fight was in a pub in Croydon (London) called Lacey Lady's Club. Carl won the fight with a KO and earned 35.

    6. Carl Merritt was asked to take part in a brutal cage fight by a man known as Bill (no other information provided).

    7. The first fight was in a warehouse near Reading. Carl won the fight by punching his opponent repeatedly until he fell over.

    8. Bill told Carl that Cage fighting was invented in America in the mid 1970's. The cage was to stop the crowd invading the ring at illegal fights.

    9. The second fight was in Ireland. Carl met "Bill" on a pitch black field. He was flow in a twin engine airplane to a field in Ireland (location unknown). He was then driven to a farm (location unknown). He fought an unknown Irish opponent in a cattle pen and won with a throat punch. He earned 5,000 for the fight.

    10. The third fight was in a warehouse on an industrial estate near Ipswich. Carl won.

    11. The fourth fight was in an underground carpark in Birmingham near the Bullring. Carl won.

    12. The fifth fight was in South London (no other details revealed). The crowd included some famous "East End Actors" and some senior police officers. Carl won.

    13. There are no photo records of the fights because they are illegal. At one match a man took a photo. The fight security stamped on both the camera and the man's head.

    14. It was now the middle of 1988 and the time of the sixth fight. Carl flew to Paris and fought another nameless opponent. The fight was in a cage errected in another underground carpark. The opponent was a kick boxer. carl grabbed his leg and punched his head knocking him out. He won 6,000 for the match.

    15. The seventh fight was in Cork in Eire. Carl won 8,000. No other details given.

    16. Autumn 1989, saw Carl fight at Dagenham Docks in a cage. He lost. he was knocked out, jaw fractured, nose broke, knuckle broken, throat swollen, ear drums bleeding, collar bone fractured.

    17. Carl flew to LAX airport for a fight in LA. The venue was a hotel 2 miles East of the freeway near LAX. The crowd included some Hollywood stars and an oscar winner. Carl won the match with a knee to the head. He won $10,000.

    18. Carl flew to Australia to fight in a furniture warehouse on the outskirts of Melbourne. He bit a chunk of his opponents lip off and the crowd invaded the ring.

    19. Carl flew to Vegas. He took a Limo to a "Hall" behind on of Vegas's largest Casinos. The crowd of 300 saw him lose his second cage fight.

    20. 1991 - 1993 No cage fights (this dates the first Vegas fight as 1990).

    21. 1995 returned to Vegas for a rematch which he won. Same Venue.
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    You might want to see if you can find out if he was in prison during any of this time which would destroy his timetable. Alternately you could see if he was doing any professional or semi pro-boxing that might indicate he was fighting, say when his collarbone was supposed to be broken.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BomberH View Post
    Hi mate, I just ordered a copy from Amazon for 1p, so I should be able to put some details down beyond the seemingly unbelievable death match claims on the back of the book.

    Hopefully at 0.01 I won't feel so bad if the book does indeed turn out to be complete bullshit.
    If need be I will get a copy also. That way there are two sets of eyes looking for bullshit. Let me know if you need the help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BomberH View Post
    17. Carl flew to LAX airport for a fight in LA. The venue was a hotel 2 miles East of the freeway near LAX. The crowd included some Hollywood stars and an oscar winner. Carl won the match with a knee to the head. He won $10,000.
    Emphasis mine. Would you care to give a direct quote from the book? This could be another way to nail him down.

    With all the gutter press, Hollywood star lifes are usually well-documented, to the point where one can recionstruct their day-to-day life.
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    [quote=BomberH;2185077]I've just speed read the book. My gut feeling is either total pack of lies or totally over dramatised low level unlicenced boxing matches.

    Here are Carl Merritt's claims:

    2. Fought first boxing match a the age of 11 and lost to a kid from the Repton Club.


    12. The fifth fight was in South London (no other details revealed). The crowd included some famous "East End Actors" and some senior police officers. Carl won.

    13. There are no photo records of the fights because they are illegal. At one match a man took a photo. The fight security stamped on both the camera and the man's head.

    14. It was now the middle of 1988 and the time of the sixth fight. Carl flew to Paris and fought another nameless opponent. The fight was in a cage errected in another underground carpark. The opponent was a kick boxer. carl grabbed his leg and punched his head knocking him out. He won 6,000 for the match.

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    OK, so he lost to a boxer from Repton. No shame in that and THAT might be only part of this that might be True. It might have been such an experience that he invented the rest as might Walter Mitty.

    Para 12. Senior police officers present. Oh yeah? Were they in uniform? How did he know? If it came to serious injury or death, would they not have given Evidence in Court??

    Para 13. Really??

    Ireland. Well, he's allegedly flying into an unknown airfield at a time of PIRA activity and expects not to be noticed??

    Bollocks. Or in Irish, Bollix.
    Para 14. Underground car park in Gay Paree? Why not use the underground cemetery like Velvet Revolver did for the video of "Slither"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rafael View Post
    Emphasis mine. Would you care to give a direct quote from the book? This could be another way to nail him down.

    With all the gutter press, Hollywood star lifes are usually well-documented, to the point where one can recionstruct their day-to-day life.
    Here is the relevant quote from page 182:

    But what really caught my eye was the mix of people at that event. They weren't all gangster types; there were a lot of what I'd call rich yuppies, in their early-to-mid-thirties, with glamourous-looking women on their arms.

    I even recognised a couple of Hollywood stars in amongst them, including one Oscar winner who'd been in and out of the news in recent years because of his dodgy lovelife. They were all acting as if the entire event was as normal as apple pie.
    The whole book is like this. No firm facts or specific details.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldman34 View Post
    If need be I will get a copy also. That way there are two sets of eyes looking for bullshit. Let me know if you need the help.

    If you get a copy, try and get the latest version:


    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Fighting-Dea...9415510&sr=8-1

    It is now called:

    Fighting to the Death: My life in the World's Deadliest Fight Game

    I would be interested if any of the facts or stories have changed. They have different ISBN numbers.

    Despite the cover spiel, I couldn't find any detailed discussion of the three people he is supposed to have killed (per the back cover). I did only speed read it though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BomberH View Post
    Here is the relevant quote from page 182:



    The whole book is like this. No firm facts or specific details.
    Thank you! Wow, I am pretty sure by this point Carl Merrit is as much a fraud as it can be. What an idiot.
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    Forgive me for bumping this thread, but Wensley Clarkson (who co-authored the book with Merritt) is on Twitter. I can't post links due not having enough posts but his Twitter handle is his name. He also has a website (his name dot com) on which the book is still being promoted.

    Perhaps he would be able to assist with the investigation and be able to answer some questions about Merritt's claims.
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