Come one, come all into a thread I have made. We shall play a game!

**Dr. Sleepless** · Posted On: 7/28/2009 6:50pm

In this thread you will name a fight that occurred in the history of martial arts and had the outcome been reversed, it's affects on the history of Martial Arts.

I'll go first.

YouTube - Muaythai VS Kickboxing (in USA)

Had this fight ended with Changpeuk getting KO'd it would become a **** storm of MT vs. american karate nonsense every time it was brought up. I think that Muay Thai would've lost a good amount of it's steam had this ended up the other way around.

**galois** · Posted On: 7/28/2009 7:30pm

I guess mentioning any of the UFC 1 fights with royce gracie is stating the obvious.

**8bit** · Posted On: 7/28/2009 8:29pm

Look for the amazing air throw at 2:16

The whole video was a brutal wearing-down.

**Dak** · Posted On: 7/28/2009 8:32pm

that throw looked effortless.

**Lu Tze** · Posted On: 7/28/2009 8:38pm

Originally Posted by Sirc

Had this fight ended with Changpeuk getting KO'd it would become a **** storm of MT vs. american karate nonsense every time it was brought up. I think that Muay Thai would've lost a good amount of it's steam had this ended up the other way around.

That fight couldn't have ended any other way, it's just a law of nature.

**IMightBeWrong** · Posted On: 7/28/2009 8:39pm

Kohsaka Vs. Fedor of course. Had Fedor not been cut, he would already be the current Emperor of the planet Earth. Right now he would be preparing to take flight into space to land on some foreign planet and take it over single handedly in the name of our great planet, which would later be renamed "Fedoria".

**galois** · Posted On: 7/28/2009 9:07pm

I love Fedor's fights. The way he keeps you guessing for a bit, you starting thinking "could this be the one...?" then BANG, thanks for coming.

**Vieux Normand** · Posted On: 7/28/2009 9:12pm

Something-or-other to do with somebody called "JFS" and a parking lot.

Imagining a different outcome in that case is, of course, conjecturing the impossible...

EDIT: Oh yeah...and Ettish winning that early UFC appearance (I know, I know, he's a different kind of fighter now).

Speaking of early UFCs: any ninjas and/or RBSDers winning anything.

**wingchunx2z** · Posted On: 7/28/2009 9:32pm

Originally Posted by Sirc

In this thread you will name a fight that occurred in the history of martial arts and had the outcome been reversed, it's affects on the history of Martial Arts.

I'll go first.

YouTube - Muaythai VS Kickboxing (in USA)

Had this fight ended with Changpeuk getting KO'd it would become a **** storm of MT vs. american karate nonsense every time it was brought up. I think that Muay Thai would've lost a good amount of it's steam had this ended up the other way around.

YouTube - Kyokushin Karate vs Wing Chun

If the chun guy had doen what he was supposed to and beaten the karate guy wing chun wouldnt be such a laughing stock.

Ahh if only......

**1point2** · Posted On: 7/28/2009 9:52pm

Red and White tournament.

The fundamental problem is that, as wingchun2x has made all too clear, all of these went the way they did because of drastic training differences. If it had been a close call, then it wouldn't have been such a groundbreaking world-changing event.