Sweeping game vs sub game

**datdamnmachine** · Posted On: 7/30/2009 7:17pm

Originally Posted by UpaLumpa

I pull guard (or pull myself under side control) a lot for just those reasons.

I'm the opposite were I have to try to get top control as it is the part of my game that is lacking, but at the same time, I've felt some weakness in my guard due to my time working on my top game. As such I've been trying to equally get some time into both.

**DSL** · Posted On: 7/31/2009 1:37pm

Originally Posted by UpaLumpa

I pull guard (or pull myself under side control) a lot for just those reasons.

Same! I lost a fight with someone in my half-guard and realized I needed to work from my back a ton more. Spent the next year on that and it has helped loads.

I'd highly recommend anyone to start from the 'bitch' position (whatever position you get owned in most) and just do work. For me it was from half, or side control. (still working on side escapes/sweeps/counters etc heh).

***jnp*** · Posted On: 7/31/2009 11:07pm

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**ONE TWO THREE FOUR FIVE** · Posted On: 8/04/2009 10:42am

I'm a big guy and find that I favour sweeps from underneath far more than subs. I think that it's a combination of most big guys having relatively short limbs and the fact its harder to get your hips really moving, further evidence for that is that the exception for me is collar chokes which I can pull off fairly frequently.

It may possibly also be the fact that subs are generally easier to pull off in training, by this I mean that I see people drill submission defences a lot but it's fairly rare to see people drill sweep defences in my experience.

**isaac** · Posted On: 8/11/2009 3:38pm

So I'm one of those long Ultra Heavyweights that you were talking about. 6'4" and 230lbs. I work the guard game a lot of the time in practice on purpose and I feel very comfortable there. I even prefer guard than mount most of the time.

The submission I hit the most frequently from guard is the kimura. I've submitted two guys at tournaments with that. I also have luck with the arm bar and triangle in class. Nothing compares to the kimura, though. That's my bread and butter move from any position you can hit it from.

Like a lot of other guys said, though, put yourself in the situation you dislike and force yourself to get used to it. My least favorite position is bottom of side control. I always struggle there and waste a lot of energy. I'd rather be mounted than bottom of side control. So here lately I've been working that when I roll with white belts. Hopefully I'll start getting more fluid at it.

- Isaac