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  1. Goju - Joe is offline
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    I am a Ninja bitches!! Deal with it

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    Quote Originally Posted by datdamnmachine View Post
    They decided to go the EliteXC route of blowing through a lot of money for some quick short term gains. Basically, they figured they could buy their way into the no. 2 MMA org position. Unfortunately, like all the others who tried the same (the aforementioned EliteXC, WFA, and K-1) they seem to have pretty much failed.

    In my opinion, the no. 2 MMA org here is Strikeforce. They have long been known for putting on solid cards, building up solid competitors, and not going bankrupt doing it (and actually making decent money doing it). They also have never overextended themselves either. They have a good solid core market in California with the occasional ventures into other territories.

    I think that a long as they continue to go in this direction, they will (eventually) be in a position to truly compete with the UFC on equal footing.
    I like Strikeforce a lot, instead of trying to beat the UFC at their own game, they built a strong regional brand to the point they could sell out a stadium 2-3 times a year and used that to build their brand.

    They're also doing a good job of promoting the different weight divisions, so they're not dependent on one star.

    Not only did Affliction blow lots of money but they lost the UFC as their marketing tool in the process and I can't see them being around as a T shirt business much longer - although the mark up on a $75 is remarkable so who knows.
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    Clearly Affliction needs a reality show.

    Hey, where's my signature?
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    Barnett needs to immediately replace Lesnar for douche of the month, for now and all time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UpaLumpa View Post
    Barnett needs to immediately replace Lesnar for douche of the month, for now and all time.
    There is only a week left in July. Barnett deserves a month all his own.

    Unless this disaster results in Fedor fighting Lesnar. Then Barnett can be hero of the decade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UpaLumpa View Post
    Barnett needs to immediately replace Lesnar for douche of the month, for now and all time.
    Dont wanna wait for sample B to come in?

    And there is NO way Josh is a bigger douche than Chestner...NO WAY!
    Quote Originally Posted by OnceLost View Post
    Actually, I don't do it because I don't want people to be scammed - I do it because I enjoy kicking down the doors of Lies and Deceit and then forcibly fucking Fraud with the dildo of Truth.
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    I don't care if they gave it to him because, he tickles butterfly butt-holes while wearing a pink frock.
  6. UpaLumpa is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zapruder View Post
    Dont wanna wait for sample B to come in?

    And there is NO way Josh is a bigger douche than Chestner...NO WAY!
    The CSAC didn't announce until they'd gotten the B sample back. Barnett also hasn't denied using.
    Chestner may be bigger but he clearly isn't a bigger douche.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UpaLumpa View Post
    The CSAC didn't announce until they'd gotten the B sample back. Barnett also hasn't denied using.
    Chestner may be bigger but he clearly isn't a bigger douche.
    I have seen different reports, as everything I have read said they are still waiting for sample B.
    Quote Originally Posted by OnceLost View Post
    Actually, I don't do it because I don't want people to be scammed - I do it because I enjoy kicking down the doors of Lies and Deceit and then forcibly fucking Fraud with the dildo of Truth.
    Quote Originally Posted by It is Fake View Post
    I don't care if they gave it to him because, he tickles butterfly butt-holes while wearing a pink frock.
  8. UpaLumpa is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zapruder View Post
    I have seen different reports, as everything I have read said they are still waiting for sample B.
    Well, given that Affliction is canceled and he hasn't denied it and has a history of doing them consider me reticent to extend the benefit of the doubt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Don Gwinn View Post
    Clearly Affliction needs a reality show.

    Hey, where's my signature?
    They're set to not show for short posts.
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    So one guy is juiced and they cancel the whole event. How is that fair for all the fighters who have been training for months for this thing or the fans who have been pissing on themselves in excitement to see Fedor?
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