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  1. money tree is offline

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    7/27/2009 5:25am

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    [quote=Metsudragon;2178821]Doesn't look like that O & A forum cared much for the thread, but oh well.

    That is because Bob has the moderators on that board so hoodwinked into thinking he is "legend of greatness" that any negative feedback on him gets taken off the board. Bob only allows good comments about him posted. He is Master Po afterall.

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  2. money tree is offline

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    Just like nobody knows the sob story Bob told Steve Robinson in order to get him to say that Bob felt devastated about being deceived. THe only thing that devastated Bob probably was the fact that he was made out to look like a patsy for believing such hogwash from another man. He thought he latched on to someone with prestige and it turned out the guy was no better that Bob himself. A fake.
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    In this case I believe you are a bit too harsh on Bob. He did cooperate producing this article on the POW net.

    http://www.pownetwork.org/phonies/phonies527.htm
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    wow, exposed! full name, phone numbers, pic. thanks for posting the link, sam. judging from his info, he's just down the road from me. wilmington is 20 minutes, and his 610 area code is southeastern pa around phila. i thought i smelled rat...
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    Posted On:
    7/28/2009 5:51pm

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    Quote Originally Posted by money tree View Post
    Just like nobody knows the sob story Bob told Steve Robinson in order to get him to say that Bob felt devastated about being deceived. THe only thing that devastated Bob probably was the fact that he was made out to look like a patsy for believing such hogwash from another man. He thought he latched on to someone with prestige and it turned out the guy was no better that Bob himself. A fake.
    Let me be clear that with the assistance of Mr. Rivera the necessary information has been obtained to send for his true military records under the Freedom Of Information Act. He most certainly is NOT a US Navy SEAL, and now we shall determine if he has any actual military experience or not. The photographic evidence which I have been given is clear enough to reveal several of the ribbons which the man was wearing, including at least one which is listed as a "medal of valor" in the text of the STOLEN VALOR ACT OF 2005. When his military records (if any exist) arrive from the National Personnel Records Center in St. Louis, the list of authorized awards will be compared with what he has been photographed wearing.

    The POW NETWORK has performed a basic background check on the name that was provided, and determined that it is probably NOT an alias... and that it is most likely the man's real name. They are already working on a full display of information and photograph(s) of the man for posting on their PHONIES AND WANNABES web listing.

    Anyone who GOOGLES the man's name will now find that full page display with all the details about his lies.

    NOTE (orig posted elsewhere on this forum):
    I've been sent all sorts of emails regarding Mr. Rivera; emails which include all sorts of statements about his "manipulating" me or "playing me like a fiddle", and emails which decry his past actions and intentions over the previous years. Let me make it perfectly clear that Mr. Rivera is not the focus of MY investigation.

    Mr. Rivera did not make false claims of military status, heroics, or anything of the sort. As a radio broadcaster he reported the claims being made by another man... a man he truly believed to be what he claimed, and whom he counted as a friend. Mr. Rivera's only fault in this matter is the all-too-human trait of believing what someone told him... and then standing by the man he thought to be his friend when others asked for verification of his military credentials.

    I have exchanged emails with Mr. Rivera, and spoken with him at great length by telephone (he voluntarily emailed ME... he voluntarily called ME... I did not initially contact him). During those conversations I provided Mr. Rivera with such information as would allow him to see how/where the claims being made by the "SEAL COMMAND MASTER CHIEF" fell short of reality and directly conflicted with the way things were done in the NSW community. In these same conversations Mr. Rivera expressed his personal emotions related to learning that the man he thought was a "friend" had blatantly and shamelessly lied to him for over a year. I've personally dealt with literally hundreds and hundreds of victims, and in my opinion Mr. Rivera is clearly a VICTIM in this particular situation.

    Whatever else he may be, whatever else he may have done (or not done), whomever he may have pissed off here at BULLSHIDO, or how/why... in this instance he HELPED... he COOPERATED... and because of his voluntary assistance this military imposter will be publicly spotlighted.

    Unless and until I learn that Mr. Rivera was a knowing participant in presenting a military fraud, I will not be a part of any efforts to hang him out to dry as a reward for that assistance. I was asked to participate in this case because there was a SEAL imposter involved and questions were asked regarding that man's claims... and my own military experience provided me with a means of verifying/denying those claims. I am dealing with that case... successfully... because of Mr. Rivera's cooperation.

    You all may fault Mr. Rivera for his past conduct, past behavior, or past business practices associated with MMA or with other matters... but that is truly none of my business. He has helped me to do what needed to be done to resolve this case of a military fraud falsely claiming to be a Navy SEAL.

    I ask that all those who have seen it as their duty to send me emails and attached documents deriding Mr. Rivera for his past deeds PLEASE CEASE DOING SO. Exchange those emails and attached documents among yourselves if you feel it necessary, but please do not send them to me.

    Respectfully,
    Steve Robinson RM2(SEAL)
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    -FORMER Special Investigator - SEAL Authentication Team
    -CyberSEALs.org - Webmaster
    -Author - NO GUTS, NO GLORY - Unmasking Navy SEAL Imposters
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    Posted On:
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    On Behalf Of Mr.Rivera

    I am Sgt Palameta USMC 1st FSSG

    I trained with Master Po when I was younger .. and way before hid Martial Arts Academy was even in play. I believe him to be a honest trustful mentor... and to be wronged in the public by a liar ... is a sad turn of events. The man is by far a phenomenal teacher. During my training with him... I have entered various tournaments in his past school of Filipino martial arts Self Defense. I was in first place in every tournament except for one event fight where I underestimated my opponent and fell to second place. While as a yellow Sash i fought a all state 3 time winning black belt and defeated him. This dedication assisted me in jumping up a rank to green sash. The years passed and I joined the United States Marine Corps... I hold high respect for Master Po and after goggling his location from my past I come across this catastrophe.. Please do not be to quick to judge... this man has changed lives for the better and trust me.. he may have influenced the lives of children turned adults which most New Jersey residents may have come in contact with<< in a positive way that is. The betrayal sounds horrible but Robert Rivera < Master PO> is still a amazing person, teacher, Friend.

    Sincerely,
    Sgt Palameta OEF/OIF Veteran
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