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    Mounting a Thai Heavy Bag in your Garage...

    Hey All,

    I've been thinking about getting a heavy bag for my garage. I was thinking of getting a wall mount or ceiling mount because it's easier to move out and park out cars this way when it is not in use. I've heard a bunch of stories about how mounting to studs can cause a bunch of long term damage because your home supports aren't good to use for a heavy bag.

    The other thing I'm noticing is there are some professional models like:

    Ceiling mount for $200
    http://store.titleboxing.com/title-p...ing-mount.html


    and this wall mount one for $300
    http://store.titleboxing.com/title-p...all-mount.html

    vs.

    A wall mount one for $80
    http://store.titleboxing.com/hbhdw.html

    Ceiling Mount for $20
    http://www.ringside.com/IMAGES/HBH-4.JPG

    Anothe Ceiling Mount for $20
    http://www.ringside.com/IMAGES/HBH-2.JPG

    I was hoping I could get some myth separated from truth here. I don't have exposed studs so I would have to drill through drywall to bolt it down. I want to put a 100 lb thai bag in. Do you have to get a pro model or are you fine with the cheaper models?

    I tried search a bit for this on the forum but didn't find anything. Sorry if my search skillz suck if I am posting about a topic that has already been covered already.
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    I don't have a problem with you posting this thread in the Basic Technique forum, but no one is replying. Maybe you'll have better luck in YMAS newbie999. It certainly gets more traffic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by newbie999 View Post
    Hey All,

    I've been thinking about getting a heavy bag for my garage. I was thinking of getting a wall mount or ceiling mount because it's easier to move out and park out cars this way when it is not in use. I've heard a bunch of stories about how mounting to studs can cause a bunch of long term damage because your home supports aren't good to use for a heavy bag.

    The other thing I'm noticing is there are some professional models like:

    Ceiling mount for $200
    http://store.titleboxing.com/title-p...ing-mount.html


    and this wall mount one for $300
    http://store.titleboxing.com/title-p...all-mount.html

    vs.

    A wall mount one for $80
    http://store.titleboxing.com/hbhdw.html

    Ceiling Mount for $20
    http://www.ringside.com/IMAGES/HBH-4.JPG

    Anothe Ceiling Mount for $20
    http://www.ringside.com/IMAGES/HBH-2.JPG

    I was hoping I could get some myth separated from truth here. I don't have exposed studs so I would have to drill through drywall to bolt it down. I want to put a 100 lb thai bag in. Do you have to get a pro model or are you fine with the cheaper models?

    I tried search a bit for this on the forum but didn't find anything. Sorry if my search skillz suck if I am posting about a topic that has already been covered already.
    go with the first $20 ceiling mount. if you live in a house built in the last 20-30 years, your joists are gonna be pre-fab 2x4 construction, which you'll have to reinforce. if they're solid beams, 2x10 or larger, then you're okay. the only way to find out is to tear out some ceiling. but this is your garage, and garages should be rough and manly. you with me?

    okay, if solid, put some 2x4 cross-braces in between the joists in the area where you intend to hang the bag, maybe every foot over four feet from center, ends cut to 45-degree angles, top to bottom, as in the picture below.

    if pre-fab, get a sheet of 3/4 inch plywood. cut lengthwise to fit the joists. you're gonna screw them in vertically, on either side of your target joist, to span the open area between the top 2x4 and the bottom 2x4, in effect making a joist sandwich. there's no convenient picture of this, but if you look here and imagine closing off both open sides to make something you can't see through...

    once you thusly reinforce your joists, screw the bag mount in the center of all your reinforcements. unless you're nfl-lineman size and planning on using the bag for tackling practice, you should be good. and now you have a huge hole in your ceiling, to boot. cut back all edges to joists, screw them down. buy a sheet of drywall, cut it to fit, get a friend to help you hold it up, screw (not nail) it into place. never bother spackling to complete the job, it's too much work.

    let me know how it goes. take pictures
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    I think I'm understanding this bit. I'll go take some pictures tonight for reference for everyone.

    In the meantime, this is a really great example of how the supports above the drywall ceiling will look like:




    The great thing is I have an attic in my house that I can go up to an take pictures of the support and reforce the structure without cutting out any drywall. I think I understand what your taking it's the same concept that I had to do when I installed our ceiling fans in our front porch (I have to reforce the beams where the ceiling fans went in). I will take pictures of the proposed area and what I did with my ceiling fan to reforce the structure because it sounds similar. You find two support where you want to place the support and nail the support IN BETWEEN the two support beams right above the drywall then you can mount your heavy bag mount with this?
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    hey, those are beeeyoutiful joists. get the mount i suggested, the first one for $20, and screw it directly into one of those things. you don't have to reinforce anything. they're at least 3x8, right? if so, you're good to go.

    and next time, post the pics first, will ya? save me from all that windbaggery about something you don't even need...
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    Quote Originally Posted by newbie999 View Post
    You find two support where you want to place the support and nail the support IN BETWEEN the two support beams right above the drywall then you can mount your heavy bag mount with this?
    nope, go directly into a joist, not between.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nohero View Post
    hey, those are beeeyoutiful joists. get the mount i suggested, the first one for $20, and screw it directly into one of those things. you don't have to reinforce anything. they're at least 3x8, right? if so, you're good to go.

    and next time, post the pics first, will ya? save me from all that windbaggery about something you don't even need...
    Those aren't my joints, but an example of one. I'll take measurements and pictures just in case.
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    What about mounting it something like this so the support is shared by several joints:



    Looks a bit tacky. Just being a bit paranoid about just drilling into a single support beam and it just falling out a few years in the future. Mostly from what the guy stated on his picture:

    http://www.boxingforum.com/boxing-eq...heavy-bag.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by newbie999 View Post
    Those aren't my joints, but an example of one. I'll take measurements and pictures just in case.
    joists, with an 's'. i'll wait for your pics to give any more advice, since it appears i'm totally talking out my ass.

    i will say that my old house had big fat 3x10s, into which i screwed one big hook and a one inch coil spring. that was plenty. my heavy bag is a standard 80-pound everlast.

    when i moved into the new place last september, i looped a big-ass piece of chain around three closely-placed prefab-style joists and called it good. no reinforcement of any kind. it's been a year and no problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by newbie999 View Post
    What about mounting it something like this so the support is shared by several joints:



    Looks a bit tacky. Just being a bit paranoid about just drilling into a single support beam and it just falling out a few years in the future. Mostly from what the guy stated on his picture:

    http://www.boxingforum.com/boxing-eq...heavy-bag.html
    and yeah, this is a joke. nice spring, though
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