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  1. dwkfym is offline
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    Crazy muzzle sweep

    I got a question for you guys, esp with LEO experience.

    Does this type of thing happen often? By that I mean having friendlies in your line of fire, and opening fire.

    Is it part of the type of work? Would you have changed the way suspect was surrounded with a better formation?

    Would above have put civilians at risk or allowed the suspect to get away?

    At your department, would this result in disciplinary actions? If not, how serious would the review be?

    Obviously this happened in the heat of the moment and the commander at this point has to use his best judgement. But what do you think?

    If this is a serious mistake in your opinion, Is this representative of the standards of discipline nationwide of LEO agencies?

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    Or do you think it was really that one officer's responsibility to assess the volatile situation and get out of the line of fire?
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    Wow, had I been standing where the camera man was, I would have been in the line of fire. I guess it was one of those situations that would be totally unacceptable from a peaceful range safety standpoint, but which might arise unavoidably in an actual firefight. I feel like if I were the cameraman I would have hit the dirt at that point, preferably behind the rear wheel/axle of that parked car. Just my unqualified two cents.
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    I think in that situation an officer has to weigh a) the risk of hitting other persons with stray fire, vs b) the risk of not shooting and letting the guy in the vehicle possibly run over someone else.

    And this question has to be answered in a heartbeat.

    I just hope they are good shots.
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    yeah. But I thought generally, you do NOT fire or even sweep your barrel over if there friendlies in the field of fire. This I'd think applies in environments more hostile than the one in the video.
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    Was it just me, or was the SUV stopped when they started shooting?
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    Somehow the dude firing the machine gun seemed like far more of a threat to the safety of his fellow officers (and any near by civilians) than the guy driving the vehicle. It's a lot easier to dodge an SUV than a bullet.
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    Is it me or does the target appear to attempt to avoid the incoming officers? It also appears that the vehicle stops and the officers continue to fire. Within that, in what appears to be an attempt to avoid being shot to death after stopping, he attempts to flee again and attempts to drive around the large body of officers shooting at him from his left.

    Their fire control could be better, (only shot in the arm?!!) but an officer (in GA anyway) has the legal right to use deadly force against an person attempting to flee or escape if they feel they are in danger of bodily injury or death.

    Your estate can sue them for you.

    Do you have any links to the story from the local media and/or the police report regarding the incident? There were way to many feet on the ground for a standard arrest.
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    Just think, if we didn't try to regulate what chemicals adults put in their own bodies, we wouldn't have a bunch of government funded shitty shots peppering the suburbs over coca extract. Just sayin'.

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    Is it me or does the target appear to attempt to avoid the incoming officers? It also appears that the vehicle stops and the officers continue to fire.
    No, it's just you.

    Oh, wait, here's a guy:

    Quote Originally Posted by Hesperus View Post
    Was it just me, or was the SUV stopped when they started shooting?
    But yeah, ditto, I don't take John Walsh's word about the driver attempting to run down two other officers either.
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