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  1. Mercurius is offline
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    11/02/2002 5:33am

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    The question: Knowlege of which traditional martial arts weapon(excluding knives) is most easily adapted to an ordinary object in a street self-defense situation?

    Also, which is the least adaptable?

    My vote for most goes to the Escrima stick, since so many things (pipes, rolled up magazines, certain tools, etc.) can be used in the application of Escrima strikes and techniques. Second choice would be Kung fu's horse bench, which can be applied to some chairs and tables.

    Conversely, I'm not as sure as some KF practitioners are that the sword can be applied to an ordinary object, similarly to the escrima stick. A sword's objective is to cut, which most ordinary objects won't do, or stab, which objects may not do as well. Also, sword sets applied to an ordinary object would neglect to take advantage of grappling techniques like an escrima stick would.

    Least adabtable, I'd have to say would be the Kwan dao. Good for exercise/coordination, but where are you going to find something that long with the proper weight and balance?

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    11/02/2002 5:56am

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    Ya I like the escrima stick choice, almost anything can become a stick
    least adaptable i would think would be a sia (sp?)
    all you can really do is stab, not even cut like a knife. unless your trying to trap a sword or something with it.

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  3. Michael

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    11/02/2002 6:13pm


     

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    Mine would be a tie between staff and the sticks.

    Least adaptable......Kwan do...bwahahahaha...that's funny, could you imagine? The only time you could get away with that is if it were Halloween.

    Two guys walk into a bar....ouch that's gotta hurt.
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    the Staff/Pole and Sticks are a straight tie all the way accross. Second would be rope/belt/whip, because all you would have to do is just walk around with a belt on and you're ahead of the game. My next would be a sword, like a previous poster said, the point is to cut through somebody, but you give a nice heavy lead pipe to a person who knows the sword, he is going to feel more comfortable having the pipe crush into somebodies body than somebody who just practices bamboo sticks.

    Oh, and the kwan do being the "least adaptable"...ever hear of a shovel

    The least adaptable is nunchaku and 3 sectioned staff, unless you get attacked in a martial arts supply store, or on some island run by a drug barron.

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    Posted On:
    11/03/2002 12:26am

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    Have you seen the traditional Choy Lay Fut polearm thingey? 9 Cut Blade or something like that... it looks like a 1 dimensional metal Xmas tree...

    The only use I could see for that would be if you're a cable guy trying to fend off a dog.
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    I like the idea of a jacket or any outer garment wrapped around the forearm to help defend against a dog. Can work for knifes too.
  7. 9chambers

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    * pole, broomstick = staff
    * stick, pipe, umbrella or baseball bat = stick
    * kitchen knife = knife
    * rock, broken glass, ice, CD or coins = shuriken
    * rope or belt or chain
    * shirt, towel or jacket
    * dirty underwear
    * shoe
    * dirt, grass, ash, pebbles or pepper = blinding powder
    * dow rod = eskrima stick
    * book, phone, chair, clock = projectile
    * phone cord = strangle cord
    * cup of water = distraction
    * flashlight, mag light = club
    * fork


    .. least likely to find a um .. a gun.. a naginata or a sectional staff.
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    9chambers, you play too much Final Fight ;)

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    Yeah, that's kinda why we use Kali drills and sticks in a very street-based rational defense system. The moves and abilities they engender are pretty universal. You can pick up anything from a magazine to a purse and use it well.

    Trust me, as a fencer, there's almost nothing in the everyday world that corresponds with the sword.

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    Chairs can do amazing things... the trick is how to hold them though. Folding ones can be a bitch, its probably best to use them in their folded state - but not like in the WWE. The Feet of it are good for poking, and the chair in general for fending off people or attacks. Non-folding ones are especially good for the latter.

    Generally, shield yourself with it, and try to use the legs against the face of your opponent. Throwing one and then charging in with a big cross or front/side kick can also do wonders. Now Chair defence is something I need to work on...

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