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  1. KhorneliusPraxx is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by madrigan View Post
    I think you're right that Lesnar's behavior won't result in fewer PPV customers, but it may alter the mix of people that choose to pay. And I'm sure Dana White doesn't give a flying rat's ass about that.

    Anyway, in pro wrestling during the mid-to-late eighties, the major figures in North America were two world champions, Ric Flair and Hulk Hogan. You watched Hogan because he was a superhero and you wanted to see him whup the villain; you watched Flair because he was a backstabber and a braggart and a prick, and you were hoping to see him get his ass kicked from Atlanta to Charlotte and back. I think that in Brock Lesnar, Dana White has found his Ric Flair.

    After a while, Hogan became dull and irritating, and despite his charisma and success there were many people rooting against him. Flair, even at his sleaziest, always had fans. It remains to be seen if, in this regard, MMA shares this dynamic with pro wrestling.
    I hate to have to go Lloyd Bentsen on your ass but, "BROCK LESNAR IS NO RICK FLAIR!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuchulain View Post
    In civilised society nothing is more important than being a decent human-being. I can't stand people who want to compete in combat sports because it enables them to get satisfaction from injuring another person without any morale or legal implications. As far as i'm concerned MMA is a sport and nothing more, so if someone can't compete in it without turning into a raging neanderthal then I won't respect them as a member of society.
    I see things such as not being a rapist a signs that you are at least a decent human being. If you believe that talking trash (even when you back it up) makes you sub human, I think you may be a bit thin skinned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLordHumungus View Post
    I see things such as not being a rapist a signs that you are at least a decent human being. If you believe that talking trash (even when you back it up) makes you sub human, I think you may be a bit thin skinned.
    No, talking trash is fine as long as it's all in good humour. I don't like people who literaly have to hate the person they are fighting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuchulain View Post
    No, talking trash is fine as long as it's all in good humour. I don't like people who literaly have to hate the person they are fighting.
    Thoughts on Nick Diaz?

    There have been more than a few grudge matches in MMA

    I don't think Brock Hates his opponents I think he's highly competitive and wants to destroy them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goju - Joe View Post
    Thoughts on Nick Diaz?

    There have been more than a few grudge matches in MMA

    I don't think Brock Hates his opponents I think he's highly competitive and wants to destroy them.
    I can't stand Nick Diaz. He's exactly the kind of person I was talking about.
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    Then you must also hate:

    Tito Ortiz
    Ken Shamrock
    Matt Serra
    Matt Hughes
    Frank Mir
    etc.
    etc.
    etc.

    It's happened before. It will happen again. It's ingrained with the sport.
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    i was once told that "do" means wrecking people's **** for your own philosophical betterment.

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    I could be mistaking dumbness for delusion. I'll have to go dig out my DSM IV. It's great to have stumbled upon this site. The rich fauna and flora of mental dysfunction that exists in the martial arts is amazing. It's like the Galapagos.
  7. Rivington is online now
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feryk View Post
    Then you must also hate:

    Tito Ortiz
    Ken Shamrock
    Matt Serra
    Matt Hughes
    Frank Mir
    Yeah, that is pretty much the list of Top Five Asshole Famous Fighters. May they all grow bitch-tits and lose their money in three-card monte games.
  8. Cuchulain is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feryk View Post
    Then you must also hate:

    Tito Ortiz
    Ken Shamrock
    Matt Serra
    Matt Hughes
    Frank Mir
    etc.
    etc.
    etc.

    It's happened before. It will happen again. It's ingrained with the sport.
    Nah Frank Mir is Ok and Matt Serra. They don't take it too seriously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuchulain View Post
    Nah Frank Mir is Ok and Matt Serra. They don't take it too seriously.
    At least, not once they helplessly get beaten to a pulp. Then it was all just hype that didn't really mean anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLordHumungus View Post
    At least, not once they helplessly get beaten to a pulp. Then it was all just hype that didn't really mean anything.
    For me, being able to back it up is not an excuse for acting like a dickhead, so win or lose it's all the same.
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