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  1. crappler is online now
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    Quote Originally Posted by v1y View Post
    The reality is that bisping's experiences as an MMA fighter give him way better credentials to coach mma than anyone else.
    By that logic, why isn't Peyton Manning coaching the team?
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    Because Peyton Manning is in a different sport with different attributes?

    1. Peyton Manning makes a huge amount of money for playing at his highest level and an even huger amount of money for hawking razors and beer on TV. MMA "superstars" don't have that option, so many run gyms and coach other fighters for purely financial reasons.

    2. Peyton Manning plays a sport where he, as a player, does not need to participate in securing good matchups for himself. The league sets up the schedules and everybody plays everybody in any case. If you're Bisping or Ortiz or whoever, and you want to get the best (most profitable/most career-building) matchups, I'm guessing you do better if you do a lot of networking yourself--such as by coaching and building up other fighters. That might be way off, but I said it so now I believe it.

    3. Peyton Manning plays a sport that has been played at a high level in his country for over 100 years and at a professional level for about 50 (this is off the top of my head, and by "professional" I mean the starting players and coaches don't have to sell insurance in the off season but can make a living by playing football.) Bisping plays a game that has only really been at the professional level in Britain for a few years now, and that only for a few. So Manning would have to charge tens of millions for his coaching time in order to replace his player salary plus the endorsements he'd lose if he were "merely" coaching, AND if he decided to do that for some reason, he'd be competing for jobs against people who have coached for a living for decades, get paid a lot less money than he does, and frankly are better qualified to do it. When people consider Bisping as an MMA coach in Britain, he's competing against . . . well, who, really? Other MMA competitors, most of whom have less experience than he does, and a lot of martial arts instructors who are at best very good at coaching one or two aspects of the MMA game. It makes perfect sense to hire him as a coach and no sense at all to hire Manning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crappler View Post
    Of course, someone is going to argue that MMA is new. There aren't any old MMA fighters. Is that a good point?
    Answer 1: Who are the old coaches? Generally, people who were young fighters long enough ago that they've had time to grow old. Now, granted, the arts that underpin MMA have been around longer than sixteen years, but the specific format that combines them, and promotions for professional fights that would give a coach a living, are recent.

    Answer 2: Old coaches? You mean like Helio Gracie? Or any of a number of figures in Judo? Or boxing? Or wrestling?
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    Gene Lebell- Hastyan.

    End Thread, beotches.
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    peyton manning plays a single position.
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    Yeah, but you could hire him as a quarterbacks coach if it made any business sense at all. It just doesn't, for him or for the employer.
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