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  1. Snwbrdngpoo is offline

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    Getting my weight down

    I decided when I got back to school for summer quarter, I'd get my weight back down to 160. I'm currently 5'9" and weight 193 pounds.

    I changed my diet completely, Changed my sleeping habits, and I started doing Judo 3x a week for 2 to 2:30 hours a week.

    after the first 2 weeks, I've already lost 12 pounds - I weighted myself yesterday at 181 lbs.


    Can a judoka get some love?


    I was thinking about doing stronglifts 5x5 on my off days, but i'm wondering if that'll do any good since I'm only intaking 800-1200 calories a day. Most of it is chicken or pasta and veggies. I don't think I'm going to gain any muscle mass with such a calorie defecit.

    Any suggestions on how to increase my weight loss or should I just keep doing what I'm doing?
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    Posted On:
    7/08/2009 5:27pm


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    Stronglifts is fantastic but doing it on a calorie deficit for me was a no no. I'm 80ish kg and once I started squatting over 90kg I found it really hard if not impossible to move up in weight until I started eating a whole lot more. Recovery was harder too.
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    Posted On:
    7/08/2009 5:53pm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snwbrdngpoo View Post
    I'm only intaking 800-1200 calories a day.
    Does this strike anyone else as being too low, given the OP's level of physical activity?
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    Posted On:
    7/08/2009 6:42pm


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    Dude, 1200 is way too low.

    Here's a calorie calculator, pick a weight and stick to it.

    http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/paul1.htm

    It will also tell you how many g's of carbs, protein and fat you should take in.

    Reducing your caloric intake that much will screw up your weight loss and at the same time, given a few weeks, will make you feel weaker and weaker.

    160 lbs =

    Calories: 2649
    Protein: 94
    Carbs: 435
    Fat: 59

    Get to it.

    Edit: I'm noticing people getting on these super low calorie diets more and more. Are you trying to just shed off all the muscle you were carrying at your original weight or do you honestly think you're going to consistently lose more than 2 lbs a week in a 'healthy' manner?

    Edit of edit: Yes, it's an article on bodybuilding.com about why you should drink milk; before anyone brings in the whole 'OMG MILK IS BAD FOR YOU DEBATE' - leave it alone. No one cares, especially me. I posted it solely for the calorie calculator.
  5. socratic is offline

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    Posted On:
    7/08/2009 8:21pm


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    At least when the OP dies of a sugar low his body won't be too heavy to carry?

    Seriously dude, 800 calories? Eat a sammich, damn.
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  6. lostitagain is offline

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    Posted On:
    7/08/2009 8:28pm

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    A good rule of thumb is your weight in lbs. x 10 = # of calories per day to maintain your current weight.

    So for you 1810 calories a day to maintain your 181 lbs. Doing judo three times a week and other activities I wouldn't recommend going below 1500 calories per day. Keep in mind that 2-3 lbs. per week is considered the optimal healthy rate of weight loss.

    Yojimbo, I think your calorie calculator is for someone who is already in shape with a very low BMI. It tells me that I need almost 4000 calories per day and if I ate that much I would end up over 300 lbs of fatness by the end of the year.
  7. Yojimbo1717 is offline

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    Posted On:
    7/08/2009 8:33pm


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    That calculation was for maintaining 160 lbs.

    Here's another calculator where you can factor in age, height and level of exercise.

    http://www.freedieting.com/tools/calorie_calculator.htm

    It gave similar caloric results based on the information he gave, the thing that made the biggest difference was his age, which I'm unsure of. The difference was 300 calories from the original.
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    Posted On:
    7/08/2009 9:04pm


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    Hell yeah! Hell no!
    I know it feels like you are really suffering to lose all the weight, but you don't have to and it won't work in the long run. A lot of the weight you are losing is muscle mass, so forget about gaining muscle.

    At the calorie intake you are currently using, your body goes into starvation mode and your metabolism slows down. That means that when you get to the 160 and start eating 2500 calories a day (which is what you should be eating now) your body will be packing on the fat like crazy, so it can prepare for the next starvation period, plus it still won't want to put on muscle.

    So now I will quote socratic "Eat a sammich, damn."

    Damn, indeed.
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    7/08/2009 9:24pm


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    I manage a diet that works well for me. I concentrate on high protein, low carb, low fat.

    Calories: 1,584
    Carbs: 26g
    Protein: 331g
    Fat: 10g

    I maintain high energy levels, I feel great- and best of all I've been shedding fat and gaining muscle.

    If you want the diet just shoot me a PM :)
  10. Yojimbo1717 is offline

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    Posted On:
    7/08/2009 9:31pm


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    Quote Originally Posted by JollyRoger View Post
    I manage a diet that works well for me. I concentrate on high protein, low carb, low fat.

    Calories: 1,584
    Carbs: 26g
    Protein: 331g
    Fat: 10g

    I maintain high energy levels, I feel great- and best of all I've been shedding fat and gaining muscle.

    If you want the diet just shoot me a PM :)
    How long have you been on it, how tall are you and how much do you weigh?

    Having been on an extremely low carb diet for an extended period of time, I recall having absolutely no energy and seeing that yours is also low on fat, I have a hard tim believing you feel great if you've been on it more than 2 weeks. I'm not saying you're lying, far from it, I'm just assuming you're either really short or happen to be eating a miracle food, because everyone else I know, including myself, that's done a diet like this and continued with a high level of physical activity has been miserable.
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