The goal of MACP is obviously to make all soldiers 99Z Combat Ninjas!!!
Originally Posted by Rough&Tumble
BTW unfortunately Football still beats out MMA for tube coverage. Funny enough we get more injuries from Football and Basketball than Combatives but pple will **** themselves over Combatives. I have been in straight up arguments with somr CSMs over training. One told me he was banning combatives over ONE injury (bruised rib) and I pointed out we had 10 more serious injuries (broken ankles, torn ACL, fractured eye socket from catching an elbow, etc) that same week from Basketball games. One thing CSMs don't like is for an LT to out shout them. However I still got my way because I pointed out that MACP is training, Basketball is a recreational activity and I was continuing my classes, thankfully the DIV CSM agreed with me too.
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the div csm?!
what the hell does it mean?
You're a lieutenant? I thought you were a warrant of some kind.
Originally Posted by Gezere
We had a similar problem here, although it was our brigade CO who didn't appreciate combatives, and the brigade CSM who supported it. CSM won, and now we have a fairly robust MACP program.
co is commanding officer, but what the hell is csm?
stop using army leet speak plz.
Division Command Sergeant Major.
Originally Posted by Lebell
CSM>Sergeant Major>1st Sgt>Master Sgt>Sgt 1st Class>Staff Sgt>Sgt>Specialist>Private 1st class>Private
Basically, the first Sergeant Major that didn't like combatives was told to STFU by his boss.
If you'd like, I can tell the story with lolcats.
Last edited by vile_zoidberg; 7/18/2009 6:54am at .
you army people are veerd.
"Army L33T speak." I fucking love that phrase, and I promise you I will be using it regularly. I'll be sure to credit the name Lebell.
i still dont understand properly, perhaps you should do it with olcats, good idea.
as far as i understand it it went like this: the cms was like: zomg mcmap causes injuries, we must abort asap.
gezere sez:dude im a lt you are a cms, stfu asap,how bout that?
cms sez zomg telling the dco asap u may be lt but ur not my direct co.
So uh LT outranks CSM but CSM outranks Colonel or Brig General? Head asplode
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Army That should answer most of your questions (a tidy rank display is about halfway down the page).
As far as a lieutenant outranking a csm, technically, yes, since the LT is an officer and the csm is enlisted; but that **** is never really pulled. A LT has been in maybe three/four years, while a csm will easily have 20+ years in, and the csm will be responsible for a lot more people.
In Gezere's case, he wasn't ordering a CSM (or at least I pray he wasn't, but that may be my junior enlisted fear showing its face), but arguing with one.
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