Thread: How Watch Grappling?
7/01/2009 12:41am, #11
7/01/2009 10:23pm, #12
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I remember before I started doing BJJ that it always amazed me how Rogan could predict what the fighters were going to do before they did it. That's probably what made me realize that there was a lot more going on then I really understood.
After just a few months of training, I started seeing all the subtle shifts in position that give away what the fighters are going for. I don't think you can really *see* that stuff unless you've grappled. Even so, you can learn quite a bit from listening to Rogan, and I credit him with getting me interested in the sport.
7/01/2009 10:47pm, #13
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How to videos
You could also take a look at the myriad of how to videos on the internet. I don't watch too many myself because my teacher is still filling my head beyond its limited capacity with principles and techniques, but I have learned a bit from the handful that I have watched.
Since real fighters in the ring must execute moves at great speed, it would be helpful to see them slowed down and/or broken into steps.
Caveat: there are many crap jiu-jitsu technique videos by people who don't really know that they're doing so I would start with Bullshido-hosted videos and suggested links.
P.S. Probably not a great idea to try things on your friends without a competent coach around to keep everyone reasonably safe ...
7/02/2009 8:15am, #14
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Thanks everybody. I had been actively ignoring Joe Rogan because he seems like such a tool, but now I will listen to what he says. I will watch some slow motion also. And I suppose I can go let the local BJJ school kick my ass for a while at some point.
Does anyone know when Frank Mir started doing commentary for WEC? There are some DVDs on Netflix but it doesn't say who the announcers are.
7/02/2009 8:42am, #15
Frame-by-frame (maybe with some decent grappling-related texts on the coffee-table between you and your TV for text explanations and comparisons).
Then, slo-mo, as many times as necessary.
Then full-speed replays.
Your initial questions seems to put all "grappling" into one bag. You are, I'm sure, aware of the different styles of grappling out there...and that they may all be represented in an MMA-ruleset bout. Very basic and glaringly-obvious example: some types of grappling seem to stress control and sub-setup from the bottom; others find "bottoming" insufficiently manly or something.
7/02/2009 9:03am, #16
So in the words of Adam Sandler,
JUST DOOOOOIIIIIT!Originally Posted by Sarcastro
7/02/2009 9:08am, #17
Goldberg is the one there for the 'everyman' even though you'd think the roles were reversed sometimes.There is no cheating, there is only jiu-jitsu.
7/02/2009 9:19am, #18
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Simple heuristic: the guy on top is probably winning provided he is doing any meaningful damage whatsoever.
Followup: Do you understand the concept of passing the guard?
Also, i think joe rogan gives pretty terrible technical commentary. I'm sure he's a decent grappler but honestly he says some pretty stupid **** sometimes especially in regards to how close someone is to passing the guard.
7/02/2009 9:37am, #19
You need to remember commentators get paid to keep talking. In addition he is right there, his overall view is going to be better than ours.There is no cheating, there is only jiu-jitsu.
7/02/2009 11:39am, #20
I just wish all the commentating for the UFC could be done by the pride announcers. Japanese was made to be shouted while watching a fight.Originally Posted by Sarcastro