[Oxford UK] So how full of it are these guys?

**StraightUpMA** · Posted On: 3/28/2011 8:25am

They've gone very quiet recently, but the main training centre (Delane's house) has been closed for business by the authorities over planning regs and no proper applications to use it as a business premises. Which fits with the 'under the radar' (ie, not doing anything properly) approach the BAMA seems to have.

Hopefully it will curtail their activities a little.

**StraightUpMA** · Posted On: 9/21/2011 1:48am

So they've started up a few 'breakaway' organisations with no visible connection to the BAMA, as the name is now so tainted. But you can bet Delane's pulling the strings. Here's one:
http://www.wisewarrior.co.uk/frontpage.html

Check out the sword video. Any iaido guys here care to comment?

**Yoj** · Posted On: 9/21/2011 5:02pm

This is the first of the seitei, a 'generic' iai kata, notice the focus, the domination of the 'opponent', and the feel of the form, this is iai, before you even worry about the specifics of the techniques themselves.

As for the technique, lots wrong, and I am far far far from an expert.

**hellis** · Posted On: 9/22/2011 2:35pm

"Grand Master Chusan is actually called Pete Delane "

I believe this is the same guy that was covered in the " Jon Alexander " expose ?

**StraightUpMA** · Posted On: 9/22/2011 3:16pm

Yep. Certainly is.

**scottishsoldier** · Posted On: 9/22/2011 4:34pm

These muppets are worse than the Krause brothers. At least they did sorta know what they were talking about.

**money** · Posted On: 9/22/2011 5:05pm

Originally Posted by StraightUpMA

Check out the sword video. Any iaido guys here care to comment?

It's been a while since I've done sword work, but that **** didn't look like anything I've ever been taught.

If you watch a legit sword kata, the strikes are done as if they are actual strikes. In that entire video I didn't see what looked like a single actual cut, just lack of control, bad/made up attacks and a dude focused on trying to cut all his fingers off.

For an example of my experience, I did several years of Shinkendo:

Notice the sword kata stuff, the students seem to be a range of beginner to advanced, but they all have better technique than that video. Observe particularly their dome (the abrupt end of a cut) and nagashi (transition from cut to cut).

**Chili Pepper** · Posted On: 9/22/2011 8:13pm

Originally Posted by money

Notice the sword kata stuff, the students seem to be a range of beginner to advanced, but they all have better technique than that video. Observe particularly their dome (the abrupt end of a cut) and nagashi (transition from cut to cut).

Now that was an excellent video

**Lebell** · Posted On: 9/23/2011 4:40am

Originally Posted by money

It's been a while since I've done sword work, but that **** didn't look like anything I've ever been taught.

If you watch a legit sword kata, the strikes are done as if they are actual strikes. In that entire video I didn't see what looked like a single actual cut, just lack of control, bad/made up attacks and a dude focused on trying to cut all his fingers off.

For an example of my experience, I did several years of Shinkendo:

Notice the sword kata stuff, the students seem to be a range of beginner to advanced, but they all have better technique than that video. Observe particularly their dome (the abrupt end of a cut) and nagashi (transition from cut to cut).

I've actually trained at one of their schools years ago, they got one in Amsterdam aswell.
the teacher was a really nice guy.